Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

HELP! Short stroking?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • #31
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57191

    Originally posted by chunger
    The malfunction was a failure to extract I think
    That's a failure to eject.
    Failure to extract leaves the fired case in the chamber.
    Failure to eject leaves the fired case sitting on top of the live ammo in the mag and shows up as a "double feed" (one live, one dead)
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

    Comment

    • #32
      chunger
      Member
      • Mar 2004
      • 465

      I honestly don't remember which one it was. . . It could have been a failure to eject w/ one live round and one dead round trying to get into the chamber.

      I'll make note next time it happens.

      Comment

      • #33
        captain91
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 10

        Hope im not thread jacking

        The "short stroking " sounds like thats happened to me more than a few times. I have tried all the function testing and I havent figured it out yet. I thought it might be my mags but then one time I used a friends and still had the same problem. Wat can I do about this? It's not easy trying to find anyone willing to take a look at black rifles in central cal.

        Comment

        • #34
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57191

          Originally posted by captain91
          The "short stroking " sounds like thats happened to me more than a few times. I have tried all the function testing and I havent figured it out yet. I thought it might be my mags but then one time I used a friends and still had the same problem. Wat can I do about this?
          Is the rifle new, or well broken-in?
          500 rounds is well broken-in.

          Keep it well oiled.
          Check for smooth carrier movement in the receiver via the 45 degree angle test.

          What type of barrel and gas system?
          Sometimes short stroking is actually caused by a hiccup in extraction.
          The short stroke test is done with an empty mag and loaded chamber.
          Do this ten times and look where the bolt or carrier is being caught by the bolt catch.
          If it consistently catches on the carrier (not the bolt), you have a short stroking problem.

          Try another known-good bolt carrier group.
          If that does not fix it, you may need to open up the gas port to proper dimensions.

          I specialize in AR-15 barrels if you need help.
          Randall Rausch

          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

          Comment

          • #35
            captain91
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 10

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            Is the rifle new, or well broken-in?
            500 rounds is well broken-in.

            Keep it well oiled.
            Check for smooth carrier movement in the receiver via the 45 degree angle test.

            What type of barrel and gas system?
            Sometimes short stroking is actually caused by a hiccup in extraction.
            The short stroke test is done with an empty mag and loaded chamber.
            Do this ten times and look where the bolt or carrier is being caught by the bolt catch.
            If it consistently catches on the carrier (not the bolt), you have a short stroking problem.

            Try another known-good bolt carrier group.
            If that does not fix it, you may need to open up the gas port to proper dimensions.

            I specialize in AR-15 barrels if you need help.
            Upper is well broken in
            I do keepit oiled
            45 degree angle tests good
            the barrel is dpms 16" hbar
            gas sysytem..... i dunno.
            As far as short stroke test I will not be at a range for about another 2 months.
            So I do not know where it is catching. It gets stuck halfway to feeding then I have to pull on the charging handle and bang buttstock on floor for a while. I just may need help with this. Thanks for the info

            Comment

            • #36
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57191

              Originally posted by captain91
              the barrel is dpms 16" hbar

              So I do not know where it is catching. It gets stuck halfway to feeding then I have to pull on the charging handle and bang buttstock on floor for a while.
              Is it failing to fully cycle, or to feed?

              DPMS barrels are known for their tight chambers.
              What ammo are you using?
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

              Comment

              • #37
                m24armorer
                In Memoriam
                • Feb 2006
                • 1422

                When I was younger I short stroked a lot......
                07 Class II in the Bay area.
                Enjoy the silence.......
                sigpic
                Celebrating our madness for over
                50 years.


                Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
                - George Patton

                Comment

                • #38
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57191

                  Originally posted by m24armorer
                  When I was younger I short stroked a lot......


                  My strokes are longer now than when I was 14 too...
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

                  Comment

                  • #39
                    m24armorer
                    In Memoriam
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1422

                    14?

                    My rubber duck was in harms way much earlier....
                    07 Class II in the Bay area.
                    Enjoy the silence.......
                    sigpic
                    Celebrating our madness for over
                    50 years.


                    Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
                    - George Patton

                    Comment

                    • #40
                      m24armorer
                      In Memoriam
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 1422

                      Stroke Fu?
                      07 Class II in the Bay area.
                      Enjoy the silence.......
                      sigpic
                      Celebrating our madness for over
                      50 years.


                      Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
                      - George Patton

                      Comment

                      • #41
                        Tweak338
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 4076

                        tight chambers,short stroking, stroke fu..
                        oh gawd

                        Comment

                        • #42
                          m24armorer
                          In Memoriam
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1422

                          Had a failure to extract once....

                          Child support is expensive.
                          07 Class II in the Bay area.
                          Enjoy the silence.......
                          sigpic
                          Celebrating our madness for over
                          50 years.


                          Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
                          - George Patton

                          Comment

                          • #43
                            Tweak338
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 4076

                            Originally posted by m24armorer
                            Had a failure to extract once....

                            Child support is expensive.
                            LoL
                            that is sig worthy right there.

                            Comment

                            • #44
                              captain91
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 10

                              My problem is the same exact as described by the thread starter. The round sometimes will not go into chamber all the way rather it will end up angled and jam up and then it difficult to remove.

                              Comment

                              • #45
                                ar15barrels
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 57191

                                Originally posted by captain91
                                My problem is the same exact as described by the thread starter. The round sometimes will not go into chamber all the way rather it will end up angled and jam up and then it difficult to remove.
                                Post pictures.
                                This is probably NOT short stroking unless you are getting failures to eject which leaves the fired casing in the action while the new one tries to feed into the chamber.
                                Randall Rausch

                                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                UA-8071174-1