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  • Bob Ragen
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 171

    Product Warning!

    Hey all Just a quick warning. I just bought some "Break Free Powder Blast Gun Cleaner" from Walmart today to help clean my two Mosin-Nagant's. The product worked very well on the bolt but instantly attacked the finist on the wood. See attached pictures of the product and the ruined finish. The lighter cotor of the stock is where my hand was when the cleaner oozed through the chamber and magazine instantly staining my hand. I have never had a cleaner like Hoppes or Outters attack the finish. I do not know if it will attack Cerakote or any other type painted finish.
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    bigbob76
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 3955

    Originally posted by Bob Ragen
    Hey all Just a quick warning. I just bought some "Break Free Powder Blast Gun Cleaner" from Walmart today to help clean my two Mosin-Nagant's. The product worked very well on the bolt but instantly attacked the finist on the wood. See attached pictures of the product and the ruined finish. The lighter cotor of the stock is where my hand was when the cleaner oozed through the chamber and magazine instantly staining my hand. I have never had a cleaner like Hoppes or Outters attack the finish. I do not know if it will attack Cerakote or any other type painted finish.
    Thanks for the heads up on that!
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    • #3
      ironhiide
      Member
      • May 2009
      • 396

      Break Free is repackaged Brake Cleaner. It is safe on cerakote but will remove krylon or other paints.
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      • #4
        Seesm
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2008
        • 7812

        Yeah that stuff got one of my 10-22 stocks pretty good... pretty serious stuff..

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        • #5
          Turo
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2009
          • 5066

          I read the preview of the thread and as soon as I saw "Break Free" I knew exactly what you did. My roommate has a nice stripe across his buttstock when he sprayed it down the barrel of his M44 with the gun pointed up.

          It also started to eat the grips on my dad's Ruger mkII. I've used it on all my guns, and haven't had an issue with it, but most all mine are made in the last 10-15 years so they aren't affected.

          It hasn't affected my Glock, nor my Beretta Neos, both of which have plastic frames, so it must only have issues with certain types.

          I like the product, as it cleans amazingly, but you have to be careful with some plastics.
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          • #6
            Bob Ragen
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 171

            Luckly I'm going to refinish it soon anyway, but I was really amazed at how fast it stripped the finish. As said it did a great clean job on the bolt and metal parts. Humm brake cleaner too.
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            • #7
              generalpetres
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 787

              maybe ill try some of this on my ak wood im trying to refinish lol. good thing i have some.
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              • #8
                jaq
                Banned
                • Feb 2009
                • 470

                Originally posted by Bob Ragen
                Hey all Just a quick warning. I just bought some "Break Free Powder Blast Gun Cleaner" from Walmart today to help clean my two Mosin-Nagant's. The product worked very well on the bolt but instantly attacked the finist on the wood. See attached pictures of the product and the ruined finish. The lighter cotor of the stock is where my hand was when the cleaner oozed through the chamber and magazine instantly staining my hand. I have never had a cleaner like Hoppes or Outters attack the finish. I do not know if it will attack Cerakote or any other type painted finish.
                Wow really? You didn't know that high-strength solvent (Powder BLAST?) would strip nearly any finish? It is made for stripping the baked on powder out of the INSIDE of the barrel. Hoppes No. 9 is NOT a high-strength solvent and is formulated to go pretty easy on finishes.

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                • #9
                  Alex$
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1233

                  Hmmm, did you read the product directions? Not to be rude, but I have been using BreakFree on my more than 20+ MNs and have not had this issue.

                  Key to using a product effectively is understanding it's use and limitations. It's adverse affect on shellac is important here. (your gun finish is shellac)

                  BreakFree is not re-packaged brake cleaner that I am aware. (I am sure someone with a better knowledge of chlorinated cleaners will explain)

                  The product is doing its job, if it is applied to an inappropriate surface then you cannot blame the product...

                  Now, if you and your roommate wear glasses, beware of this product if your lenses are polycarbonate....

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                  • #10
                    Bob Ragen
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 171

                    Originally posted by jaq
                    Wow really? You didn't know that high-strength solvent (Powder BLAST?) would strip nearly any finish? It is made for stripping the baked on powder out of the INSIDE of the barrel. Hoppes No. 9 is NOT a high-strength solvent and is formulated to go pretty easy on finishes.
                    See the part that says Gun Cleaner smart a&&, sarcasm not appreciated. Tell us all you've never made a mistake.
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                    • #11
                      jaq
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 470

                      Originally posted by Bob Ragen
                      See the part that says Gun Cleaner smart a&&, sarcasm not appreciated. Tell us all you've never made a mistake.
                      Please, you're going to get butthurt and call me names because I busted your chops on a mistake that just a little care and reading (instructions, ya know) would have prevented? I mean after all, you are "warning" us about a product that does exactly what it is supposed to do.

                      FWIW I apologize for offending your delicate sensibilities. Peace and I will stay far away from your threads from now on.

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                      • #12
                        Bob Ragen
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 171

                        Originally posted by jaq
                        Please, you're going to get butthurt and call me names because I busted your chops on a mistake that just a little care and reading (instructions, ya know) would have prevented? I mean after all, you are "warning" us about a product that does exactly what it is supposed to do.

                        FWIW I apologize for offending your delicate sensibilities. Peace and I will stay far away from your threads from now on.
                        First, I understand I made a mistake by not fully reading the label past the part that states "No Disassembly Required", my bad. Chalk it up to a learning experience. Also, I'm not looking for sympathy here just posting a warning to others so they don't make the same mistake.

                        Secondly, I accept the appology and I do not have delicate sensibilities, but it sure seems that often individuals post comments and questions and get flamed. Not that it isn't sometimes due, but when someone is trying to keep others from making the same mistake by inflecting their personel experience along comes those who just have to throw barbs at other members.
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                        • #13
                          Bob Ragen
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 171

                          Originally posted by Alex$
                          Hmmm, did you read the product directions? Not to be rude, but I have been using BreakFree on my more than 20+ MNs and have not had this issue.

                          Key to using a product effectively is understanding it's use and limitations. It's adverse affect on shellac is important here. (your gun finish is shellac)

                          BreakFree is not re-packaged brake cleaner that I am aware. (I am sure someone with a better knowledge of chlorinated cleaners will explain)

                          The product is doing its job, if it is applied to an inappropriate surface then you cannot blame the product...

                          Now, if you and your roommate wear glasses, beware of this product if your lenses are polycarbonate....
                          Hi Alex$, as I stated the product did a great job of cleaning the bolt and other metal parts. I did not fully read the instructions, my bad. I was hold ing the rifle and sprayed some from the top down the mag well, it got on my hands and insantly disolved the shellac. Not saying it's a bad product just warning others so they don't make the same mistake.

                          Also I do wear glasses and the product label says nothing about poloycarbonates, so thanks for the constructive criticism. Others will be glad to know that info too.
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                          • #14
                            97F1504RAD
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 6316

                            Originally posted by Alex$
                            Hmmm, did you read the product directions? Not to be rude, but I have been using BreakFree on my more than 20+ MNs and have not had this issue.

                            Key to using a product effectively is understanding it's use and limitations. It's adverse affect on shellac is important here. (your gun finish is shellac)

                            BreakFree is not re-packaged brake cleaner that I am aware. (I am sure someone with a better knowledge of chlorinated cleaners will explain)

                            The product is doing its job, if it is applied to an inappropriate surface then you cannot blame the product...

                            Now, if you and your roommate wear glasses, beware of this product if your lenses are polycarbonate....
                            Originally posted by jaq
                            Please, you're going to get butthurt and call me names because I busted your chops on a mistake that just a little care and reading (instructions, ya know) would have prevented? I mean after all, you are "warning" us about a product that does exactly what it is supposed to do.

                            FWIW I apologize for offending your delicate sensibilities. Peace and I will stay far away from your threads from now on.
                            We are men we do not read directions. Minus points towards your man cards for reading directions.

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                            • #15
                              Tom Slick
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 730

                              Looking at the MSDS its 3 ingredients are Acetone (high strength solvent), Toluene (high strength solvent), and Monocyclic Terpine (alcohol).

                              The shellac on the stock never had a chance!

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