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  • #61
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57122

    Originally posted by hylander
    So what do you all think about these ?
    Kinda leaning toward the GO704
    I like the larger table and travels as well as the dovetail column and DRO on the quill.
    Add a DRO on the table and you really have something there...
    Randall Rausch

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    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
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    • #62
      hylander
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3850

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      I like the larger table and travels as well as the dovetail column and DRO on the quill.
      Add a DRO on the table and you really have something there...
      So do you think that unit would be fine for completing an AR Lower or two ?
      Failure is not an Option

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      • #63
        eaglemike
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 3936

        Originally posted by hylander
        So do you think that unit would be fine for completing an AR Lower or two ?
        Of course. People have done them on a drill press with a crossslide table. Any mill will be better than that. Always get the best machine possible. If you ever ran real junk, and then good stuff, you'll hate the junk.
        But - and it's a big one - no matter which manual machine a person uses requires more concentration/focus than most people are used to. If one turns the handle the wrong way (very easy to do if one gets distracted) the part can be scrapped. The quality of machine makes a difference, but the skill of the user is very important. Think 2 or 3 times, cut once......
        all the best,
        Mike
        Last edited by eaglemike; 09-13-2010, 8:32 AM. Reason: typo
        There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

        It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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        • #64
          rabagley
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2008
          • 7180

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          Get rid of one of the motorcycles and do this:



          I used to park a motorcycle down the middle, but I got sick of rolling it in and out each time I wanted to do something quick in the shop...
          Oh, don't worry. You'll be getting an invite to come over and help me set some of this stuff up.

          Also, I haven't come across a good quart bottle to split that gallon of Rustlick soluble oil. I'll bring the gallon to class on Wednesday (first night is tomorrow, but Mondays are out for me this fall) and if you've got a quart bottle/can I can split out for you, bring it. Otherwise you're waiting for the next motorcycle oil change.
          "Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

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          • #65
            rabagley
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2008
            • 7180

            Originally posted by hylander
            I found this local, new for $350 with a few collets a Vise and an
            air upgrade "what ever that is"
            Would this work for completing 80% Lowers ?

            http://www.harborfreight.com/two-spe...ine-44991.html
            Yes, that's a Sieg X2 and it's the classic mini-mill. That's a great price on that package. Jump on it.

            The "air upgrade" is a pneumatic assist device that lifts the mill head (much like holds open the back of many an SUV). This replaces the very kludgey spring-arm device that comes stock, so is a good thing.
            "Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

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            • #66
              hylander
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3850

              OK:
              I'm going to order one of these:
              My issue with the Square Colmn is the very short Spindle travel
              The 463 is 3.3" and the 704 is a mere 2" which means I will have to raise and lower the head constantly.
              The only draw back I see of the RF-31 is having to move the Head on a rare occasion, it has 5" of Spindle travel
              Input please

              G0463 6" x 22" 3/4 HP Mill/Drill Premium features on this mill drill without the premium price. The G0463 3/4 HP Mill/Drill comes with standard features that even some larger mill/drills don't have. The most notable feature is the two-speed gearbox with variable speed for precise spindle speed control. The G0463 features an R-8 spindle taper, which only accepts R-8 collets. R-8 collets come in many sizes, typically ranging from 1/16" to 7 /8" and 3mm to 20mm. The table has three 7/16" T-slots for locking down your workpieces and a coolant trough to recirculate the coolant that helps keep your bits from overheating. The cast-iron dovetail column improves precision and the gibs are fully-adjustable to take play out of the table, cross slide and column. The G0463 has a coolant trough, reversing switch, and easy to read dials with inch-cut leadscrews. For a compact machine, the G0463 has some serious heft at 445 pounds. With all these features and mass, you'll be able to mill, drill, bore, and ream through the most serious hobby projects you can come up with! As one reviewer on grizzly.com mentioned, the 3/4 HP Mill/Drill is a “Very nice machine for the money.” Like all of the Grizzly Mills, the G0463 comes with a 1-year warranty covering parts and assuring the unit is free from factory defects. (Consumables are not covered by the warranty.) The G0463 manual was written by our U.S. based Technical Documentation Department and is packed with useful information. The complete and easy-to-read manual makes it easier to assemble and maintain your mill drill. The Grizzly Customer Service and Technical Support Teams are U.S. based. Parts and accessories for the drill press are available online and shipped from the Grizzly parts warehouse in Springfield, MO. Made in an ISO 9001 Factory SPECIFICATIONS: Spindle motor: 3/4 HP, 110V, single-phase, 7A Spindle travel: 3-3/8" Max. distance spindle to table: 14-3/4" Max. distance spindle to column: 9" Longitudinal table travel (X-axis): 15-7/8" Cross table travel (Y-axis): 5-3/4" Vertical head travel: (Z-axis) 14-7/8" Drilling capacity: 1" Table size: 6-1/4" W x 21-5/8" L x 1-1/2" T T-Slots: 3 @ 7/16" wide on 1-11/16" centers Spindle taper: R-8 Spindle speeds: Variable, 0 - 1000 RPM (LOW), and 0 - 2000 (HI) Quill diameter: 2.362" Overall dimensions: 27" W x 30" D x 30-3/4" H Approximate shipping weight: 445 lbs. FEATURES Dovetail column with elevation handwheel graduated in 0.0005" Variable spindle speed from 0-2000 RPM Push button emergency switch with indicator lights 2-speed range gearbox Reversing switch Coolant trough Dial speed control


              G0704 7" x 27" 1 HP Mill Drill with Stand Grizzly's best-selling Mill Drill. The G0704 7" x 27" 1 HP Mill Drill with Stand can be used as a dedicated, single-purpose machine in a professional shop. It can be easily operated by those just learning to mill in their home shop as well. It is an excellent value and has some of the same features found on much larger mill drills. That’s why it is one of the best-selling mill drills in the country! The variable-speed 1 HP motor powers the R-8 spindle from 50–1125 RPM in low and 100–2250 RPM in high. Spindle RPM can be monitored on the convenient digital readout. A clear chip guard on the spindle keeps debris from flying at the operator. The large 7-1/16" by 26-5/8" table can be moved by handwheels in both the longitudinal and cross directions. Both feed directions can be locked by table lock levers. The G0704 also features tapered gibs with double locks which adds accuracy and rigidity, a dovetail column; and it comes with its own stand. The G0704 manual was written by our U.S.-based Technical Documentation Department and is packed with useful information. The complete and easy-to-read manual makes it easier to assemble and maintain your mill drill. Parts for the mill drill may be available online and shipped from the Grizzly parts warehouse in Springfield, MO. Made in an ISO 9001 factory SPECIFICATIONS: Motor: 1 HP, 110V, single-phase, 12A Spindle taper: R-8 Spindle speeds: Variable, 50–1125 RPM low, 100–2250 RPM high Max. distance spindle to column: 7-1/2" Max. distance spindle to table: 13" Spindle travel: 2" Drilling capacity: 5/8" mild steel Vertical head travel: 11" Column tilt: 90° left/right Table size: 7-1/16" x 26-5/8" Table travel (longitudinal): 18-7/8" Table travel (cross): 6-7/8" T-slots: 3 @ 2-1/2" centers, 7/16" wide Stand footprint: 15-3/4" x 16-1/2" Overall dimensions: 38" x 34" x 67" Approximate shipping weight: 372 lbs. FEATURES: Spindle RPM DRO Spindle depth display Fine feed head control 2-Speed gearbox 3–16mm B16 drill chuck Clear guard on spindle Cast-iron dovetail column Rubber chip guards on ways Zero setting dials Dials read inches Forward/reverse switch Start/emergency stop buttons 1-year limited warranty Need help?We offer U.S.-based customer service and technical support to


              Failure is not an Option

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              • #67
                spacecase0
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 30

                I have a sherline mill
                Sherline Products are suppliers of precision mini-benchtop lathes, milling machines, CNC machine accessories for industrial and home use.

                for a tiny light mill it does well as long as light cuts are made,
                it is not misaligned from the factory like most of the smaller ones
                it was $1200
                but at least I can keep it in my apartment without it going through the floor

                the lathe they sell does not work well for gun smithing , so I do not recommend the lathe they sell.

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                • #68
                  Roccobro
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 2907

                  The most cost effective mini lathe I can recommend is the Harbor Freight 9x20. It doesn't have all the problems of the 7x10 and the bed is plenty long for barrel work. And mods galore on Yahoo 9x20lathe forum.

                  Catch it on sale and use the 20% off coupon floating around. My machine has actually gone UP in value over the years.

                  Justin
                  For any questions contact me by email.
                  Thanks,
                  Justin
                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  Sometimes, arguing just for the sake of arguing, can be fun.
                  Originally posted by DannyZRC
                  no it can't!
                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  YES IT CAN!
                  "Pink rifle disease... SPREAD IT!"

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                  • #69
                    bob_e95482
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1202

                    With a round column mill, one can attach a laser on the head, and scribe an indexing line on the opposite wall.

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                    • #70
                      hylander
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3850

                      Well I'm going with this one.
                      In the last few days I have read of several issues with the other ones.

                      Failure is not an Option

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                      • #71
                        38super
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 117

                        I suggest ya'll wander over to Homegunsmith.com site, search for Fuzzbean. He's done some sporty stuff with 'economy' machinery. Mind you, this guy should be designing machinery, not modifying. Fairly good site for most build projects, seems to attract the master model maker types along with few FUGs like me.

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                        • #72
                          Roccobro
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 2907

                          $600 floor sized Bridgeport in Chino. NOT MINE!



                          Lets get this to a Cal Gunner!!!

                          Justin
                          For any questions contact me by email.
                          Thanks,
                          Justin
                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          Sometimes, arguing just for the sake of arguing, can be fun.
                          Originally posted by DannyZRC
                          no it can't!
                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          YES IT CAN!
                          "Pink rifle disease... SPREAD IT!"

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                          • #73
                            hylander
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3850

                            Finally got my RF-31
                            Now I need to build a steel bench for it.
                            Where can I get some Angle Iron or Square Tubing ?
                            Last edited by hylander; 07-22-2013, 11:51 AM.
                            Failure is not an Option

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                            • #74
                              Carsgunsandchics
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3537

                              Originally posted by hylander
                              Finally got my RF-31
                              Now I need to build a steel bench for it.
                              Where can I get some Angle Iron or Square Tubing ?

                              Blue Collar Supply on Florin Perkins just north of Fruitridge. Or just pick up one of those old Gov't steel desks that weigh about a ton and a half for $20.
                              Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                              I am more of a sucker than a blower...

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                              • #75
                                hylander
                                Veteran Member
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 3850

                                Carsgunsandchics:
                                Thanks for the Blue Collar Supply idea
                                Any Idea where to get one of those metel desks ?
                                Failure is not an Option

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