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  • #16
    HotRails
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 1491

    Originally posted by SJgunguy24
    Welding will heat treat the ejector.
    I'm neither mettalurgist nor welder, but is this for certain? It seems that the heat treating process is very precise about what temperature it should be heated to and what material to quench it in to achieve the desired properties. Im just curious about this.

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    • #17
      HotRails
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 1491

      Originally posted by Flat Broke
      As far as checking the extractor, I disassembled the bolt earlier today and there isn't any gunk or anything that would be causing the extractor not to release. Is there something specfic I should be looking for?

      Thanks,
      Chris
      Chris, if material behind the extractor was the problem, you would have noticed it when you pulled it out. So, we can eliminate this as a possibility. Many of the Romy "G" kits had this problem although I don't know if it actually caused FTE problems in all of them.

      There is something curious about all this though, even though your ejector tip is a bit short, it still seems to be of sufficient length to eject the cartridge.
      Last edited by HotRails; 08-04-2010, 9:08 PM.

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      • #18
        SJgunguy24
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2008
        • 14849

        Originally posted by HotRails
        Chris, if material behind the extractor was the problem, you would have noticed it when you pulled it out. So, we can eliminate this as a possibility. Many of the Romy "G" kits had this problem although I don't know if it actually caused FTE problems in all of them.

        There is something curious about all this though, even though your ejector tip is a bit short, it still seems to be of sufficient length to eject the cartridge.
        Yes but not reliably. I checked my NDS1 with a Saiga bolt and carrier. I did the same with with an AKM and my Saiga receiver.

        Saiga bolt and carrier in NDS1. You can see it goes completely past the ejector. My camera died but there is a small gap where the ejector slides past the bolt that could lead to the intermittent ejection problems.




        AKM bolt and carrier in Saiga receiver, not the best pic but you can see the ejector will not let the bolt slide by at all. That is what I would say the ejection problems stem from. The Saiga is an AK74 style ejector and is longer then the AKM style.
        There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
        The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
        The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
        The others, well......they just never learn.

        "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
        Patrick Henry.

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        • #19
          jamesob
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 4821

          does the bolt feel loose side to side on the top rails? maybe the receiver is bowed out in the center of the receiver making the ejector to far from the bolt. maybe you can squeeze it in a bit.

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          • #20
            SJgunguy24
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2008
            • 14849

            Originally posted by jamesob
            does the bolt feel loose side to side on the top rails? maybe the receiver is bowed out in the center of the receiver making the ejector to far from the bolt. maybe you can squeeze it in a bit.
            The OP built a Saiga kit on an NDS3 receiver. The Saiga uses AK 74 parts, look at my pics and you can see the AKM parts will not work in the Saiga receiver. The ejector is too long, therefore the NDS3 is too short to have reliable ejection.
            There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
            The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
            The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
            The others, well......they just never learn.

            "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
            Patrick Henry.

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