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  • LynnJr
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7956

    700 Bolt Handle Welding

    I know Dan Armstrong in Fairbanks Alaska can tig weld 4 handles on for $270 shipped and insured.

    Can anyone in California match that deal?
    Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
    Southwest Regional Director
    Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
    www.unlimitedrange.org
    Not a commercial business.
    URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!
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    kcstott
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 11796

    are you talking just tig welding an existing handle that is currently on the bolt to over come the issue of the solder? or are you talking about replacement handles on bolts??

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    • #3
      LynnJr
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7956

      I have 4 new PT&G bolt bodies and need the PT&G handles silver soldered or welded on.
      Just looking for someone a bit closer to northern california that can do the job.
      Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
      Southwest Regional Director
      Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
      www.unlimitedrange.org
      Not a commercial business.
      URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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      • #4
        fish45
        Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 386

        Not for 70 ish dollars each.

        If they’re not going into actions that have been trued with the bolt that should be done first to avoid timing or clearance issues.

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        • #5
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

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          • #6
            G-forceJunkie
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2010
            • 6309

            ..and if going with PGT bolts, why not one piece?

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            • #7
              LynnJr
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7956

              One piece bolts are the latest fad that don't allow you to time the bolt or allow you to reposition the handle after the lugs and abutments get cleaned up.
              And yes the receivers are already fitted to each bolt body.
              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
              Southwest Regional Director
              Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
              www.unlimitedrange.org
              Not a commercial business.
              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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              • #8
                edgerly779
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 19871

                Must go to ffl if receivers go with them. If just bolts ask Randall ar15 down here.

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                • #9
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by LynnJr
                  One piece bolts are the latest fad that don't allow you to time the bolt or allow you to reposition the handle after the lugs and abutments get cleaned up.
                  And yes the receivers are already fitted to each bolt body.
                  And you're not going to do that once the handles are tig welded to the body's. which is the reason i said the actions have to go with the bolts, and be individually fitted and numbered to each action. There is no other way around it.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57103

                    Here is the fixture I made to hold bolt handles in alignment on the bolt body so I can check timing and alignment in the receiver before welding them:





                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57103

                      Originally posted by LynnJr
                      One piece bolts are the latest fad that don't allow you to time the bolt or allow you to reposition the handle after the lugs and abutments get cleaned up.
                      I believe that PTG significantly tightened up the bolt handle location on the one piece bolts so that they will work with trued receivers because a PTG one piece bolt will just barely fit into a non-trued receiver compared to how sloppy a factory bolt is in an un-trued receiver.
                      I have not taken measurements and logged them to show the data, but the difference is quite noticeable on my workbench.

                      It usually only takes a few thousandths to clean up the lug abutments while truing and the PTG one piece bolts have MUCH more primary extraction cam engagement than an un-trued receiver with a factory bolt.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                      • #12
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        I believe that PTG significantly tightened up the bolt handle location on the one piece bolts so that they will work with trued receivers because a PTG one piece bolt will just barely fit into a non-trued receiver compared to how sloppy a factory bolt is in an un-trued receiver.
                        I have not taken measurements and logged them to show the data, but the difference is quite noticeable on my workbench.

                        It usually only takes a few thousandths to clean up the lug abutments while truing and the PTG one piece bolts have MUCH more primary extraction cam engagement than an un-trued receiver with a factory bolt.
                        you're lucky if you get any primary cam extraction on a factory action.
                        They usually have about 1/16" gap. this is on recently made actions too. Maybe back when they had a custom shop and you had to order a 40X things were better. but not in the last 25 years or so.

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                        • #13
                          fish45
                          Member
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 386

                          Originally posted by kcstott
                          you're lucky if you get any primary cam extraction on a factory action.
                          They usually have about 1/16" gap. this is on recently made actions too. Maybe back when they had a custom shop and you had to order a 40X things were better. but not in the last 25 years or so.

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                          • #14
                            kcstott
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11796

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                            • #15
                              Scotty
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 1783

                              Dan has a pretty fast turn around when I sent my bolt to him. I think it was in and out of his shop in a day. Total time was just over a week.

                              I'm not sure what he does with a new bolt, but with existing bolts he has a few measurements you need to provide for him to use for timing.

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