working with polymer (80?) on frames (?)

[FluorideInMyWater]

howdy campers,
was wondering if anyone knows about or has worked with the actual polymer that Glock uses in the production of thier frames.

my interest is in using a resin to spread on the frame to increase thickness as well as adding finger groves, etc. think of it as "bondo"
i was an autobody man in my first life so i can work with bondo and lead, and brass if necessary....

i thougt to myself, "fluoride, why don't you just smear some "bondo" on the grip and then take your latex covered hand and squeeze the grip into the shape of your hand???" and then finish it up with a dremel once it cures.

i dont' know the origin of polymer 80. i'm thinking it comes from the 80% completed items that people were selling just before the DOJ put the kabosh on OLL's

looked at the polymer80 kits and there is no resin. i guess everything has been cast and you just finish it up. maybe another resin could be substituted. i don't know. so i have to kick this to the group for scrutiny

thanks!
john

[edgerly779]

Machine some stainless side plates with grooves and make it more blingy and stronger. Does not show teeth marks if you slap some antifa or blm in the chops with it.

[FluorideInMyWater]

wow.
said it in a public message board that is monitored by the DOJ/ATF/CIA/FBI. i wonder how many red flags you tripped in the Neo-Project-Carnivor database.

[tr6guns]

He just spoke the truth...

[FluorideInMyWater]

ah. we have a Proud-Boys member with us as well.

can we stick to guns, plz. this is not a political thread.

[Oldmandan]

ah. we have a Proud-Boys member with us as well.

So, a dislike for commie thugs makes somebody a Proud Boys member?

IMHO a dislike for commie thugs just makes you American...

It used to be that both sides shared this same sentiment... not anymore... the Dems have become what they once fought against.

[sofbak]

Well.... polymer pistol frames are made from a nylon-6 compound of some sort. As such they are:
-a thermoplastic
-injection molded
-not cast
-not an exo-thermic resin.-not a thermoset

So your concept won't work. Additionally, I doubt you will get anything to adhere to that thermoplastic sufficient to keep it in place.

But WTH, Try it and show us your results! Would love to see a "bondo'd" glock!

[Dooder]

On my match glock for steel I roughed up the grip and slathered some epoxy on it. Just before it gelled I sprinkled aluminum oxide all over it. And then when it felt sturdy enough I gripped it to mold to my hands.

It's stuck on there like white on rice. No flaking, no chipping. Its 13 years old, been in 3gun, outlaw and USPSA matches, been in the rain, snow, mud. Stopped counting the rounds on this thing at around 40k about 9 years ago. Epoxy works awesome man.

[FluorideInMyWater]

On my match glock for steel I roughed up the grip and slathered some epoxy on it. Just before it gelled I sprinkled aluminum oxide all over it. And then when it felt sturdy enough I gripped it to mold to my hands.

It's stuck on there like white on rice. No flaking, no chipping. Its 13 years old, been in 3gun, outlaw and USPSA matches, been in the rain, snow, mud. Stopped counting the rounds on this thing at around 40k about 9 years ago. Epoxy works awesome man.

interesting! did your finger grooves stay molded? i'm assuming yes. i guess i could layer it to build up volume and then finger indents at the end. i'll probaby die of epoxy induced cancer, but hey.......when it's your time...
i wonder if there is a way to thicken up epoxy. actually i don't remember the last time i used it so i don't remember the consistency. i could put on a latex glove and just pour it over my gripped hand. only problem would be removing my hand. lol

[Dooder]

interesting! did your finger grooves stay molded? i'm assuming yes. i guess i could layer it to build up volume and then finger indents at the end. i'll probaby die of epoxy induced cancer, but hey.......when it's your time...

i wonder if there is a way to thicken up epoxy. actually i don't remember the last time i used it so i don't remember the consistency. i could put on a latex glove and just pour it over my gripped hand. only problem would be removing my hand. lol

No need to add a thixotropic to the epoxy. I just mixed it up and waited for it to thicken up to about honey like before applying. The brushing on takes some time plus you're moving it around so it'll get thicker faster and allow you to build it up. Just like Bondo days man haha. Fresh mixed and its too runny. Let it sit a bit and its better for gap filling. The surface prep is the same idea, rough it up and then clean with acetone. I used to work with Bondo too. No leading sleds but I cast lead haaha. This process was safe. I wore gloves through the process, ventilation, etc. And no problem removing your hand as the grit provides a barrier.

Here's a pic from 2007 after I applied the aluminum oxide. I think I have 80 grit, just whatever I had in the blasting cabinet at the time.
I'll post current pic of the grip later when I get back in town.

[FluorideInMyWater]

So, a dislike for commie thugs makes somebody a Proud Boys member?

IMHO a dislike for commie thugs just makes you American...

It used to be that both sides shared this same sentiment... not anymore... the Dems have become what they once fought against.

there was no mention of "commie-thugs". there was a reference to physically assaulting people for what-ever their beliefs. it's just uncalled for. this is a gunboard. not a political rally.
i love how extremist right people call everyone who doesn't believe everything you believe are labeled "left wing facists". it's not black or white. there are inbetween'ers, or some that don't even fit into a category, like me. but the great thing about america is the 1st amendment and the fact that you can have a completely different opinion or belief than someone else and voice it (where appropriate). but calling someone a facist or commie and stating that they need to be physically reprimanded is not cool. there is no need for that. But i love how "right-wingers" only get political when their 2A rights come into question. it's even more important than the first ammendment (in thier opinion) and most of them don't even know what the rest of the 27 ammendments are. they only get political when it's about the guns.
yes, i proudly support 2A. i am not a democrat, republican, independant, or libertarian. i'm something that you can't define. you can't automatically say i'm a "liberal" because i judge each issue on it's own merit.
so when i'm talking about guns and someone interjects the notion that other american's who you may not agree with should be physically assaulted, i take issue with it. like i said, go somewhere else to talk that trash. this is a gun board.
...and i seriously haven't heard anyone use the word "commie" since before the berlin wall came down, like 40 years ago.
the only thing you can accuse me of is being a bad typist. i can handle that just fine.
cheers!

[FluorideInMyWater]

No need to add a thixotropic to the epoxy. I just mixed it up and waited for it to thicken up to about honey like before applying. The brushing on takes some time plus you're moving it around so it'll get thicker faster and allow you to build it up. Just like Bondo days man haha. Fresh mixed and its too runny. Let it sit a bit and its better for gap filling. The surface prep is the same idea, rough it up and then clean with acetone. I used to work with Bondo too. No leading sleds but I cast lead haaha. This process was safe. I wore gloves through the process, ventilation, etc. And no problem removing your hand as the grit provides a barrier.

Here's a pic from 2007 after I applied the aluminum oxide. I think I have 80 grit, just whatever I had in the blasting cabinet at the time.
I'll post current pic of the grip later when I get back in town.

holy cow!!!! that is awesome! so you had zero finger groves and all that is epoxy?? i love the sprinkles! seriously. i might just pic up a can of that if the store shelves haven't already been pilfered.

[Dooder]

Oh this pic is from 07', the pistol is a gen3 so it has grooves to begin with.

[divingin]

[QUOTE=FluorideInMyWater;25113585
i wonder if there is a way to thicken up epoxy.[/QUOTE]


Do a websearch for microballoons. Used to thicken fiberglass (polyester) resins normally, but will work with mixed epoxies as well.

[FluorideInMyWater]

Do a websearch for microballoons. Used to thicken fiberglass (polyester) resins normally, but will work with mixed epoxies as well.

oh ok. cool!!!
thanks D!