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  • xsefan
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 1931

    M2 in .416

    Anyone ever built a M2 from a kit?
    I have a kit. I can't build it as a .50 bmg so the barrel is useless. I don't see .416 barrels anyone know of another caliber that can be used in the m2 ?
  • #2
    Spyder
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2008
    • 17026

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    • #3
      xsefan
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 1931

      All .50 must be registered at a dangerous weapon in ca

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      • #4
        Deedle
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 1146

        I thought that the law was all 50 BMG rifles, not the M2?
        "No personal computer will ever have gigabytes of RAM" - Scott Nudds

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        • #5
          Spyder
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2008
          • 17026

          Originally posted by xsefan
          All .50 must be registered at a dangerous weapon in ca
          Incorrect.

          You can build, buy, or sell Ma Deuce in California perfectly legally, the same as any other long gun, be it semi auto or single shot.

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          • #6
            CAL.BAR
            CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
            • Nov 2007
            • 5632

            Yep. M2 is a crew served weapon, not a shoulder fired rifle and not subject to the .50 ban. Build away. (but you'd better be able to reload the rounds yourself as they are VERY expensive)

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            • #7
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              kcstott
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 11796

              Originally posted by xsefan
              All .50 must be registered at a dangerous weapon in ca
              All rifles that are capable of chambering a .50 BMG round are assault weapons.

              An M2 by design is not a rifle. It is a semi auto firearm and nothing more.

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              • #9
                RickD427
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2007
                • 9264

                Originally posted by xsefan
                Anyone ever built a M2 from a kit?
                I have a kit. I can't build it as a .50 bmg so the barrel is useless. I don't see .416 barrels anyone know of another caliber that can be used in the m2 ?
                Originally posted by xsefan
                All .50 must be registered at a dangerous weapon in ca
                WRONG


                Originally posted by Spyder
                Incorrect.

                You can build, buy, or sell Ma Deuce in California perfectly legally, the same as any other long gun, be it semi auto or single shot.
                RIGHT


                Please give a close read to the statutes. Penal Code section 30600 makes it a felony to manufacture a .50 BMG Rifle. Section 17090 defines a "Rifle" as a weapon designed to be fired from the shoulder.

                The M2 was not designed to be fired from the shoulder, therefore it is not a "Rifle" and therefore is not governed by section 30600.
                If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                • #10
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Please explain to us how the M2 fits the definition of a “rifle”
                  Last edited by kcstott; 03-15-2018, 3:39 AM.

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                  • #11
                    xsefan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 1931

                    Check the dros system. It must be transferred as a rifle.
                    Check with doj. They don't not have a category for other weapons. Just handgun and rifles.
                    Last edited by xsefan; 08-10-2021, 3:30 PM.

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                    • #12
                      RickD427
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 9264

                      Originally posted by xsefan
                      Check the dros system. It must be transferred as a rifle.
                      Check with doj. They don't not have a category for other weapons. Just handgun and rifles.
                      That's cool, but the functionality of the DROS system does not change the content of the statutes.
                      If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                      • #13
                        xsefan
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1931

                        Fact doj says no. I won't risk my freedom . Feel free to risk yours.
                        Please contribute to how to help in a gunsmithing way or move to legal discussion.

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                        • #14
                          RickD427
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 9264

                          Originally posted by xsefan
                          Fact doj says no. I won't risk my freedom . Feel free to risk yours.
                          Please contribute to how to help in a gunsmithing way or move to legal discussion.
                          xsefan.

                          I'm not moving anywhere. This is your thread and you are the rightful decision-maker of how you will proceed. Comments made by me, and others, are only there to assist you. You get to decide what weight to give them

                          But please keep in mind that you are not the only person who is affected by the content of the discussion. When you make a patently false assertion, as you did in your Post #3, stand by to be corrected as to facts as Deedle, Spyder, CAL.BAR, kcstott and I, pointed out. That dialogue is important to other readers of this thread who might otherwise have been misled by your posting.
                          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                          • #15
                            TKM
                            Onward through the fog!
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 10657

                            Originally posted by xsefan
                            Fact doj says no. I won't risk my freedom . Feel free to risk yours.
                            Please contribute to how to help in a gunsmithing way or move to legal discussion.
                            You are so blazingly wrong it hurts but you be you.
                            It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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