marking lower

[kcstott]

I thought an 01 was just a dealer, not a smith.

01 is dealer and smith, but a smith may not manufacture without an 07.

Minor difference. mostly red tape

[kcstott]

Which one did you go with? I've been exploring the various options.

I found a french copy of a Hemes. for $450. came with a set of fonts. i'll buy a second set and get some cutters ground up. may as well just buy cutters at $20 each I won't grind them. sharpen yes, grind from solid no.

Any of the bench top models will work with minor mods. the one thats coming is going to need a lift kit to get the vise low enough to clamp a lower in. No big deal. one Saturday and some aluminum risers she'll be good to go.

[ar15barrels]

I was also under the impression that an 07 was $3000 my mistake.

Licenses are issued for a 3-year period.
License fees are on the ATF application:

01/02 $200
06 $30
07 $150
08 $150
09 $3000
10 $3000
11 $3000

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/form-7-application-federal-firearms-license-atf-form-531012/download

[kcstott]

Licenses are issued for a 3-year period.
License fees are on the ATF application:

01/02 $200
06 $30
07 $150
08 $150
09 $3000
10 $3000
11 $3000

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/fo...31012/download

Yeah i found that. What I didn't realise was a 07 could be a Smith only with no firearms sold...I think that the license i need when I move out to a more friendly area. National city will not allow a home based FFL other than collector.

[Junkie]

I know that Farwest can sell too (or at least place an order for something that PSA doesn't like selling to normal Californians, and then sell it to me). Is there any downside to 07 vs 01 other than the ITAR stuff?

[ar15barrels]

Yeah i found that. What I didn't realise was a 07 could be a Smith only with no firearms sold...I think that the license i need when I move out to a more friendly area. National city will not allow a home based FFL other than collector.

There are non-sales 01's, but 07's are non-sales at the state level which might make it easier when the state tries to tell you that you need all the stuff an 01 needs to sell in order to approve your application.

07 needs ITAR though so if you can get a non-sales 01 (basically a regular 01 but none of the state stuff required for sales), you should not need ITAR.

[swell1957]

Seems like if you want to serialize finished receivers one of you would need to be an 07 manufacturer.

Since most aren't manufacturers you'd be outside your license.

At an ATF seminar, LA County ATF stated 01 or 07 FFLs may engrave 80% lowers. Your results may vary
Not sure what CA DOJ stance is, but if they were contrary to the ATF it would make compliance for the upcoming laws difficult.
Some dealers choose not to deal with the hassle of 80% lowers.

Be aware the ATF is cracking down on engravers without FFLs. There have been several instances of this happening. Even if the customer waits while the work is being performed an FFL is required.

this is not legal advise. consult an attorney.

[swell1957]

There are non-sales 01's, but 07's are non-sales at the state level which might make it easier when the state tries to tell you that you need all the stuff an 01 needs to sell in order to approve your application.

07 needs ITAR though so if you can get a non-sales 01 (basically a regular 01 but none of the state stuff required for sales), you should not need ITAR.

A non-sales 01 or 07 FFL still needs to fulfill some state requirements in addition to the FFL requirements, i.e. COE at a minimum, exempt centralized list status to transfer between FFLs.

[SonofWWIIDI]

FBI is "famous but ignorant"

:rofl2

[kcstott]

At an ATF seminar, LA County ATF stated 01 or 07 FFLs may engrave 80% lowers. Your results may vary
Not sure what CA DOJ stance is, but if they were contrary to the ATF it would make compliance for the upcoming laws difficult.
Some dealers choose not to deal with the hassle of 80% lowers.

Be aware the ATF is cracking down on engravers without FFLs. There have been several instances of this happening. Even if the customer waits while the work is being performed an FFL is required.

this is not legal advise. consult an attorney.

Ca DOJ has not made a comment, The New law simply states that the firearm is exempted from a state issued serial number if it is already marked in accordance with federal law. I may have to seek clarification. Problem is by the time you get a letter back it will be to late for california.

[Junkie]

Are there FFLs allowed to sell but not allowed to gunsmith?

[kcstott]

Are there FFLs allowed to sell but not allowed to gunsmith?

Yeah an 03 C&R

[kcstott]

first shot that I would be willing to post with the engraver. I need to resharpen some cutters to get more depth without going to wide. current tool is a 80 degree tool and if deeper than .010" it gets really wide. so i need to grind up some 45 degree and 30 degree tools.

This is just tracing a sticker. finished height it .437 or so.



This is one pass in 300 series stainless

I still need to modify the graver so it can do tall parts. and I need to make some font clamps for my tray.

[ECG_88]

If flats or
80's

The Engraving Place in San Marcos is all set up for it. Mill end engraving. You can paint over it and still visable. Tell him I sent you.

Name
City, state
Caliber
Model
Serial

I just called him the other day, He said he doesn't want to do them anymore. He also said if engraved before anodizing or painting, it wouldn't be deep enough. He said it wasn't worth the risk from DOJ and very nicely told me that he would rather not take my business.

[38superdupper]

CARRILLO CUSTOMS INC. In Lodi is an FFL with Laser engraving.

https://www.facebook.com/Carrillo-Customs-Inc-1687636838183128/