Polymer80, Spectre Frame

[Kayo Kelly]

I just want someone to run 5k rounds of ammo through a build and post pictures and a report before I build one. They look cool but how do they hold up to the abuse and wear and tear?

Save your money. Get a 1911 builders in stainless or try the Sig clone from Matrix.

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[JAE]

Well my answer came from Spectre:

Kenneth,

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My first move to resolve this situation would be to shim you trigger assembly inside the frame and prevent it from rocking in place. Some builds do this more than others I am going to attach a photograph of where that shim should be. Please let me know if this helps any.

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David Borges Jr.

Customer Support

1-800-517-1243

3111 North Deer Run Road

Carson City, NV 89701





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Care to enlighten us as to the location of this shim? I'm going out for testing on two of these Saturday and would like to know. I had a few of these issues (FTF and fail to completely go into battery) and have loosened them up a bit. They operate fine on the bench feeding rounds but.... Inquiring minds would like to know!

[JAE]

Save your money. Get a 1911 builders in stainless or try the Sig clone from Matrix.

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I agree, but only to a certain degree. I built a 1911 in stainless (match grade kit from 1911 Builders) and by the time I was done with some sights and tools I'm over $1400 into it. It's an awesome piece. I mean, it's a chunk of IRON. Feels great, shoots great.

The Glock is half the cost and an entirely different animal. I think P80 has something here. This is, after all, their element. Side by side comparisons with factory Glock frames leaves me feeling there will be little difference in performance. From the reported problems it's obvious there is an alignment issue. I would figure it out myself but I'm pretty new to Glock in general so looking for experience. It does appear to be located in the same area as the casting blemish.

There will always be a significant separation of opinion about the Glock. Plastic guns are just rejected by a lot of folks out of hand. Always have been. The comparison to a 1911 is not realistic. They are totally different machines. As for the P229 I'm really interested BUT another $1200 to $1400 adventure will have to wait.

[Kayo Kelly]

All parts and jigs total up to $950 plus shipping.

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[Kayo Kelly]

He followed with:
I understand how it sounds to have to have a piece of plastic card in the trigger housing . If you can think

up and implement another solution for shimming the area on the pistol frame to allow that proper alignment and operation, I am absolutely all for it. This remedy is, to the masses, a very easy and understandable

modification when building the PF940 Pistol Frame that really solves the problem and has been done so

many times without any safety issues or risks. We are working on changes to the mold for the pistol

frame to adjust for these changes and those frames will be available in the near future.* Nonetheless,

if you have any questions about these changes and/or these processes, please call me.



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[Awesomesauce]

Can you post the pics that he sent showing the Shim modification?

[Swampcrip]

I have a Spectre frame and after receiving it, I'm really not sure if I want to actually build it...

The ergonomics of the grip is worse than actual Glock, and the resulting rails based on instructions and videos just does not look convincingly stiff or strong enough. If I do build it, I have plans to use it only with my Advantage Arm's 22 conversion.

If you want to build 80% pistol, go with 1911 (lots of knowledge and skills needed), or the Matrix Precision P228 (some knowledge and skills needed, but much easier than the 1911 to put together).

You can always sell it to me

[Kayo Kelly]

I cant figure out how to post it. Its only one photo. He uses a ballpoint pen to note the front of the trigger housing.

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[Kayo Kelly]

His photo doesnt show the shim mod.

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[Kayo Kelly]

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[echo6cavedog]

Fast forward to about 3:40. The shim mod goes in front of the trigger assembly where the pen is pointing to. You may have to double or triple up depending on how much you play you have.

[fixitsteve]

My experience...

Followed the directions exactly. Used a bench top drill press and the smallest milling vice from amazon.com. not great quality, but you can make anything cheap work once if you know what you are doing.

Went straight down the middle on the rails and cleaned with micro files. Measure 10 times, cut once.

1. Did you use OEM frame parts, or aftermarket parts, e.g., lone wolf? OEM from a fully disassembled 22 gen 3 police trade-in. Currently has Wolf 9mm barrel and extractor and shoots 9mm fine as well.
2. Did you have fitting issues, and if you called the company for technical assistance were they helpful?
The OEM pins were larger than the drill bits provided, but slowly enlarging the holes got me to a tight push through. Have to say my email to support about one issue has yet to be answered...but I figured it out myself.
3. How did the gun function after all the frame parts were installed? With very little clean-up, just some fine sanding and filing, the operation is without flaws. No slide fitting really needed for me. Slid right on with no rubs.
4. After shooting the gun, are you noticing any wear on the rear "polymer" slide rail? I realize the locking block is metal, but metal rubbing on polymer won't wear very well .... even though other m
Nothing worse than my KAHR CW9...and although it shows wear...it still fires flawlessly.

Only real issue is that the 22 slide doesn't match the frame perfectly front to back. It is a little too far back but hardly noticeable.

Maybe I was lucky, but I watched all YouTube videos first, then read the directions carefully and took my time at every step. Total time was about 4 hours...but not straight. Had to come back to it several times.

[Kayo Kelly]

So I found an old credit card and cut a couple of slices to slide in for shims.
I took it to the range and put 100 rounds of Freedom Munitions 147 gr through it. At first it fired well. Then little by little failure to feed failure to extract not going all the way into battery. I pulled it apart and slid a second shim in. Same thing. So I put it away and pulled out my CZ. A real gun!!

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[Awesomesauce]

Looking at the picture and the video it seems like the "blemish"/casting flaw in the frame is not thick enough or providing enough support and there is flex. Is that what you are seeing?

[echo6cavedog]

Polymer80, Spectre Frame

Looking at the picture and the video it seems like the "blemish"/casting flaw in the frame is not thick enough or providing enough support and there is flex. Is that what you are seeing?

ZACTLY!