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  • DV1911
    Junior Member
    • May 2016
    • 4

    Matrix P228 won't fire.

    Completed a P228 from Matrix today. Very nice parts kit and frame. Decocker, trigger, and hammer works. It loads and ejects snap caps. But when I do the pencil/eraser test, it fells to shoot out the pencil. Please help me get this nice build to work.
  • #2
    pklin1297
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 3287

    Did you assemble the slide or Matrix?

    Depress the firing pin safety and then the firing pin and see if it protrudes from the breech.
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    • #3
      DV1911
      Junior Member
      • May 2016
      • 4

      Matrix assembled it. Yes it does protrudes from the breech when I press down on the firing pin safety and firing pin.

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      • #4
        SkyHawk
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2012
        • 23518

        Are you trying to shoot bullets or pencils? Go to the range, test fire, report back and if it doesn't fire, take pictures of the primers.
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        • #5
          phsieh10
          Member
          • Sep 2004
          • 267

          Could be your slide is riding too high and the firing pin safety is not getting pressed by the sear safety.

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          • #6
            Germz
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2013
            • 4691

            Originally posted by pklin1297
            Did you assemble the slide or Matrix?

            Depress the firing pin safety and then the firing pin and see if it protrudes from the breech.
            All slides are sent out pre-assembled. the double roll pin assembly is pressed into place with the firing pin depressed and then checked afterwards.

            if you remove the double roll pin assembly, and press the firing pin safety up into the breech block the firing pin will eject out the back and you can check it for damage.
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            • #7
              DV1911
              Junior Member
              • May 2016
              • 4

              I'm pretty sure my slide isn't riding too high. I will disassemble the slide over the weekend when I have more time to play with it. Here's 2 pictures: 1 is with the trigger at rest and 1 with the trigger pulled back.
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              • #8
                Rational1
                Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 151

                Originally posted by DV1911
                I'm pretty sure my slide isn't riding too high. I will disassemble the slide over the weekend when I have more time to play with it. Here's 2 pictures: 1 is with the trigger at rest and 1 with the trigger pulled back.
                With the hammer decocked, trigger bar should be against the hammer pin, except when cocked or firing.
                Last edited by Rational1; 06-13-2016, 3:39 PM.

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                • #9
                  Rational1
                  Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 151

                  Originally posted by Rational1
                  With the hammer decocked, trigger bar should be against the hammer pin, except when cocked or firing.
                  Check to see what part is holding back the trigger bar from returning to it's proper position.

                  Last edited by Rational1; 06-13-2016, 3:50 PM.

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                  • #10
                    DV1911
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 4

                    Here's how it looks decocked.
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                    • #11
                      Rational1
                      Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 151

                      Originally posted by DV1911
                      Here's how it looks decocked.
                      Okay, it took me a while. As someone else stated, probably firing pin. When you disassemble the slide you will probably see what the problem is, spring is bent up or something. Let me know what parts you need and I will send it off.

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                      • #12
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        Originally posted by Rational1
                        Okay, it took me a while. As someone else stated, probably firing pin. When you disassemble the slide you will probably see what the problem is, spring is bent up or something. Let me know what parts you need and I will send it off.
                        the issue is he tried a pencil test. He has yet to try and actually fire it.

                        I need to find mags for my build. I can wait till I find a decent deal of good factory mags. or if someone would like to provide the dimensions to mod 92F mags i'd be inclined to make a few of those work
                        Last edited by kcstott; 06-13-2016, 7:03 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Rational1
                          Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 151

                          Originally posted by DV1911
                          I'm pretty sure my slide isn't riding too high. I will disassemble the slide over the weekend when I have more time to play with it. Here's 2 pictures: 1 is with the trigger at rest and 1 with the trigger pulled back.
                          Another diagnostic thing you could try is to cock the hammer back and push on the firing pin with a pencil and at the same time slowly pull the trigger. At some point near the end of the trigger travel, you should feel the safety lever disengage the firing pin before the hammer falls, thus allowing the firing pin to move forward.

                          Also, after the safety lever disengages the firing pin and before the hammer falls, you can depress and release the firing pin with your pencil to check that the firing pin is moving freely and returning with its spring.

                          This should tell you a lot about how the firing pin is presently functioning, and if the safety lever is working properly.

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                          • #14
                            phsieh10
                            Member
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 267

                            Is the safety sear installed correctly. When you press the trigger with the slide off, you should see it pop up from the top of the frame to depress the firing pin safety in the slide.

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                            • #15
                              kcstott
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 11796

                              I took apart a live round stuck it in the chamber and dropped the hammer on the primed case. primer went off. I'm good.

                              Be advised my pistol would not shoot a pencil out the barrel either.

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