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  • #31
    kmca
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2371

    Originally posted by prc77
    The rearward cant, can come into play during the draw. Breaking the 180.

    uspsa 5.2.7.3
    Don't forget 10.5.6 applies to reholstering and drawing

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    • #32
      prc77
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 2578

      Originally posted by kmca
      Don't forget 10.5.6 applies to reholstering and drawing
      there can and have been circumstances where you can exceed that 3 feet.

      At Richmond we try to discourage the use of a rearward cant holster to avoid the inevitable DQ.
      C Co. 509th ABN/PFDR
      83-85

      USPSA CRO
      MEMBER: USPSA, GSSF, Richmond Rod & Gun, Sunnyvale Rod & Gun


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      • #33
        HighLander51
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 5144

        Originally posted by jessegpresley
        Is there somewhere else that says LEO are exempt from running a weapon mounted light?

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        • #34
          HighLander51
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 5144

          Originally posted by sonofeugene
          Glock 34.

          Hmmmmm......some of those things sound pretty interesting. I just ordered a Bravo Concealment holster but it's designed to work with my X300u. Does anyone shoot with a light installed?
          .
          You can run your light in IDPA under "Not for Competition" or in Open Division for USPSA.

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          • #35
            prc77
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2578

            get another holster
            C Co. 509th ABN/PFDR
            83-85

            USPSA CRO
            MEMBER: USPSA, GSSF, Richmond Rod & Gun, Sunnyvale Rod & Gun


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            • #36
              HighLander51
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 5144

              Originally posted by prc77
              get another holster
              But that takes all the tacticool out of it.

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              • #37
                Lead Waster
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2010
                • 16650

                I'd agree, just take the light off, see how well it fits or not inside the light-enabled holster. Maybe stuff some newspaper in the place for the light or something. Or get another holster.

                Keep it super simple for your fist bunch of matches, go buy that $15 nylon Uncle Mikes holster to run without the light.

                Your focus for the first half dozen matches is the mantra "Don't DQ, Don't DQ, Don't DQ". Don't touch your gun at all if you can help it, until it's time to shoot and even then, double check with the RO. Even if you feel silly, don't. If he says "Make Ready" then ask him "Can I draw the gun now?"

                Seriously, go take the safety class, they'll teach you safety and give you some good tips too.
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                Forget about stopping power. If you can't hit it, you can't stop it.

                There. Are. Four. Lights!

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                • #38
                  Davidoff
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 773

                  Originally posted by HighLander51
                  You can run your light in IDPA under "Not for Competition" or in Open Division for USPSA.
                  The current USPSA division rules also allow a weapon mounted light in Limited and Limited-10. The language restricting weights or devices to reduce recoil in Limited/L10 (Appendix D2/D3 item 22) was removed as of January 2013.
                  He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression.
                  -- Thomas Paine

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                  • #39
                    HighLander51
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 5144

                    I'm looking at the Feb 2014 rules and the hand gun update for 2014. D2/D3 still says no lights.

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                    • #40
                      HighLander51
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 5144

                      Originally posted by Davidoff
                      The current USPSA division rules also allow a weapon mounted light in Limited and Limited-10. The language restricting weights or devices to reduce recoil in Limited/L10 (Appendix D2/D3 item 22) was removed as of January 2013.
                      Did you find a newer ruling that allows lights in Limited or L10?

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                      • #41
                        Davidoff
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 773

                        The reason lights were disallowed was because they were ruled to be "weights or devices to reduce recoil". Since these are no longer forbidden, lights are allowed in Limited and L10 provided all other division rules are met. There is no ruling posted on the NROI page saying lights are forbidden, and in all divisions but Production anything not specifically forbidden is allowed.

                        ETA: You are completely correct, I overlooked item 14 in D2/D3. Installed flashlights are prohibited in both divisions. Seems strange to me that this is allowed, but a light is not.
                        Last edited by Davidoff; 03-27-2014, 11:56 AM.
                        He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression.
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                        • #42
                          HighLander51
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 5144

                          Yea, but that's a weight, not a flashlight.

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                          • #43
                            Voo
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1702

                            Being a good* shot never hurts, but the truth of the matter is that USPSA/IDPA/Action pistol involves elements that you'll not encounter on a static firing line.

                            Without being overly specific, you should find a local range that is hosting either USPSA or IDPA type events. Show up with whatever gear you have (minimum holster + 2 mag pouches) and say, "I'm new, but I'd like to shoot".

                            I know most places will readily let you shoot without an orientation class/lesson. Most likely the club will squad you with someone who'll show you the basics and general safety rules. But as mentioned, some places will require an orientation class of some sort, so it behooves you to ask those clubs specifically what their requirements may be.

                            Don't worry about your gun or your ammo or your light or your sights. Equipment is the least of your concerns beyond having the necessary holster and mag pouches. I've used uncle mikes, fobus, etc etc.. it doesnt really effect you much.. Get what you want after you know what you want..
                            Aloha snackbar!

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                            • #44
                              Lead Waster
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 16650

                              I'd really suggest the orientation class. Not knowing the commands and procedures, simple though they may be, will DQ you quickly, ruining your day, let alone make it unsafe for others.

                              Here watch this ... she started to unholster before "make ready" on the first stage of her first match...DQ... she's now a pretty good shooter.

                              (She used to shoot at Richmond, so I'm sure some guys here know her)

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                              Forget about stopping power. If you can't hit it, you can't stop it.

                              There. Are. Four. Lights!

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