Quiet Muzzle Break for Featureless

[SuperSet]

I would be comfortable running the BattleComp but there's some controversy on whether they are actually compensators with flash hiding capabilities. Just search here on CGN for 'BattleComp Featureless' and you'll see the arguments to and fro.

[hermosabeach]

These guys tested a variety of Brakes and Comps

At the end of the day they direct gas back or out to offset recoil and or muzzle flip
The gases coming back make it louder

Smith enterprises makes a good one that is not too loud

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/muzzle-brakes/ar-15-m16-ar-style-308-good-iron-muzzle-brakes-prod12789.aspx?avs|Make_3=AR-15/M4

Here is part 1 of the 3-4 part series on brakes

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/ZtVB4IubWyc

[locosway]

[artoaster]

I just read the title and thought it had arrived.

[GM_77]

These guys tested a variety of Brakes and Comps

At the end of the day they direct gas back or out to offset recoil and or muzzle flip
The gases coming back make it louder

Smith enterprises makes a good one that is not too loud

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/muzzle-brakes/ar-15-m16-ar-style-308-good-iron-muzzle-brakes-prod12789.aspx?avs|Make_3=AR-15/M4

Here is part 1 of the 3-4 part series on brakes

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/ZtVB4IubWyc

Nice link, lots of good info. It helped me a lot, thanks!

[CRTguns]

this question again? This begs the question of te very existence of a muzzle break.

first, the energy that causes recoil afrter thebullet has exited, is the SAME energy that makes the gun go bang- the sound. It is a wave moving through air.

If that wave travels in a direction directly away from the shooter, that energy is not re-directed, thus, results in recoil.

The more effective a break, the more "side blast" you'll get from it. To be effective, a reak must redirect the escaping pressure wave... well, it does not matter here... up, down, left right..., as long as its not directly away from the shooter.

The only way to have decreased blast and reduced recoil is to convert that kinetic energy into heat energy, or use it to counter itself in an enclosed space. Both of these mean, yes, silencer... which you cannot have.

get a good brake (tti, SJC, surefire) and use plugs or/and muffs. Gun shooting is loud.

Just please dont do the koolaid thing and put that "levang linear brake" on your gun. Please.

[Yar]

The biggest benefit of a comp is for those shooting long range though magnified optics. The reduced recoil lets you see more in the scope such as the splash from a miss. Since you can see your hits or misses you can make corrections. Without the comp you lose the miss in recoil and have no idea where that shot went. So the idea is to reduce enough recoil that you can call your shots with a scope.

The most important part of a comp design is the baffles. This is what soften the recoil. The gases strike the baffles and pull the gun forward. The trick is to make the through hole as small as possible to use as much gas as possible. Thus the tolerances of the comp is important to avoid dangerous baffle strikes.

The bleed holes or side vents help stabilize the gun. It takes some of the side to side wobble out and the gas has to go somewhere. On a rifle even a 223 there is a lot of gas.

Of the designs I've seen and I have seem most of them the noveske kx3 is interesting in that it has no side or top vents. It's not as effective because the exit/through hole is too big. One smith I know is experimenting with a reducer that closes it up a bit for efficiency. The best thing I've seen is this same smith attaches a oversize shroud around the comp (standard comp like the JP.). This shroud is open on the front, imagine a kx3 without a front baffle/cover and with a jp comp inside. The jp comp functions normally but after the gases vent they are redirected again by the shroud forward. I have not shot it extensively but from what I hear it is a lot quieter because the gases are going out and away from the shooter again. For effectiveness it is very close to a regular comp. The RO's will appreciate it as they will get slapped with less brake wash.

[XDshooter]

I like those battlecomps but the question is- are they CA kosher?

GM77 perhaps an A2 style brake?

There are not any restricted muzzle devices in California (suppressors not included).

HOWEVER, you must not configure an firearm with certain features that make it illegal. A Battlecomp is advertized as having flash suppression abilities. That alone makes it a flash suppressor.

Perfectly legal on a bullet button build, NOT OKAY on a featureless.

[MossbergMan]

For what it's worth, my BCII is quieter than my JP titan. At least from the shooters position it's less obnoxious for sure.
BCII is on my AR now and the Titan is on my Kel-Tech SU16CA.

[vintagearms]

There are not any restricted muzzle devices in California (suppressors not included).

HOWEVER, you must not configure an firearm with certain features that make it illegal. A Battlecomp is advertized as having flash suppression abilities. That alone makes it a flash suppressor.

Perfectly legal on a bullet button build, NOT OKAY on a featureless.

[joash]

Try a Levang compensator. They can be had for as little as $30 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/524...15-steel-matte. It is not loud and doesn't look funny either.

[XDshooter]