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  • randy
    In Memoriam
    • Nov 2006
    • 4642

    AR reload

    How do you guys and gals drop the bolt when doing a bolt back reload on your AR? Use the button or grab the handle?

    As I complete inserting the mag I use my support thumb to hit the catch button. I'm not saying thats the way to do it but it is what I do.
    Last edited by randy; 04-16-2010, 2:35 AM.
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  • #2
    corrupt
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1097

    That is how most people do it, and that is what it is for. I've never seen anyone prefer to use the charging handle. It's not a 1911.

    Some people slap the side with their palm. Some people use the BAD lever. Hell, slapping the buttstock to release the bolt would probably be quicker than using the charging handle.

    Not to mention if you have the rifle shouldered, you'd hit yourself in the nose with the charging handle
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    • #3
      Jim_KT
      Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 468

      I've gone full circle and use the palm of my support hand to release the bolt catch. This way just works best for me and is fairly portable between AR-platforms, unlike the BAD that I fell in love with.

      1992 - 2005: Used my support side palm to release the bolt catch.
      2006 - 2009: Used a combination of either my support side thumb or the charging handle (advised to do so in a class).
      01/2010 - 03/2010: Used a Magpul BAD.
      04/2010 - now: Using my support side palm to release the bolt catch.

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      • #4
        bohoki
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 20818

        i slap the button that's why it is there

        theoretically i only need to use the handle once per trip unless i use a beta mag

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        • #5
          esskay
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 2304

          I use a BAD or equivalent.

          Without a BAD lever, I use my support thumb to hit the button.
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          • #6
            MustangGreg66
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 981

            I thought I'd put in my two cents and share my story. I'm fairly new to the AR platform, just bought and assembled one post obama. I watched the Magpul Carbine videos and thought, ok, not to hard, I can do that. I thought oh, slapping the side of the gun looks funny, I'll be more refined and hit the slide release with my thumb...

            Well, I was fortunate enough to get to go to a FrontSight Tactical rifle 4-day class, prettymuch for free. Anyway, it was the first time I'd used my AR for anything other than sighting it in off the bench. When I got up to shoot I told myself I was going to move with a sense of purpose, eliminate waste movement, and try to follow what I'd learned in the Magpul video and in the class, but with my own twist on what I thought worked. So I didn't tac-reload so that I could experience a speed reload totally unexpected. When I ran dry, I got my mag in, grabbed the front of the magwell, keeping my eyes on the target and punched my thumb where I thought the paddle was... nothing, push again a little to the side, nothing, I look down and my thumb is next to the paddle but not on it. reaquire it, push it, bolt goes home and I'm back up running...

            What I took from this is:
            1. I'm pretty green and don't know where the paddle is.
            2. Finding that little thing under just the slightest bit of stress isn't easy.
            3. Slap the side of the gun stupid, it works (talking to myself)

            So, I'm now a slapper. I figure it'd take a bit of training to learn the gun more to be able to manipulate it blindfolded and gross motor skills always work. So to answer the question, I don't rack with the charging handle, I don't even press with my thumb from the side, I'm a slapper.

            Originally posted by Jim_KT
            I've gone full circle and use the palm of my support hand to release the bolt catch. This way just works best for me and is fairly portable between AR-platforms, unlike the BAD that I fell in love with.

            1992 - 2005: Used my support side palm to release the bolt catch.
            2006 - 2009: Used a combination of either my support side thumb or the charging handle (advised to do so in a class).
            01/2010 - 03/2010: Used a Magpul BAD.
            04/2010 - now: Using my support side palm to release the bolt catch.
            I recently bought a BAD type lever at the gunshow and thought it's about the best thing for the AR since CLP. Again I havn't had much practice with it yet, but I was wondering Jim_KT, why you're now using support side palm in place of the BAD?

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            • #7
              Jim_KT
              Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 468

              Originally posted by MustangGreg66

              I recently bought a BAD type lever at the gunshow and thought it's about the best thing for the AR since CLP. Again I havn't had much practice with it yet, but I was wondering Jim_KT, why you're now using support side palm in place of the BAD?
              The BAD lever in my opinion is one of the greatest things I have ever spent money on aside from my XBOX360, Halo3, XBOX Live, a headset and a case of beer. The reason why I am not using the BAD anymore is so that I won't have to train myself on AR platforms equipped with and without the BAD. I figure that becoming proficient without the BAD will cover the gamut of AR-platforms.

              That, and I cringed at the thought of purchasing eight more of them...

              Good reason? Yes. No. Maybe.

              For a while, I thought the BAD truly shined during malfunction clearances. A good friend of mine timed me during double feed clearances using his iPhone and the Surefire shot timer application.

              Clearance 1: 6.46s with BAD
              Clearance 2: 6.46s with BAD
              Clearance 3: 6.74s no BAD
              Clearance 4: 6.18s no BAD
              Clearance 5: 6.09s no BAD (third try was executed because we didn't believe the second no-BAD run)

              The above is not a good enough sample size, but it showed that once acclimated to either one I was about as fast in clearing double feeds with and without the BAD.

              Your experience from Front Sight is a good one. You found what works for you.
              Last edited by Jim_KT; 04-16-2010, 1:19 PM.

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              • #8
                MustangGreg66
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 981

                Wow, faster without the BAD, I guess it really doesn't take long to move your hand from the grip top the CH and back. Really good point about equiping all your rifles with them, they're another magical part that add cost to any build thats for sure. I've bought one so far and have 4-5 rifles in various stages, they're not all getting BADs thats for sure (carbine VS SPR VS heavy barrel varmint rifle)

                I guess the addage of practice practice practice hasn't set in with me either, just love adding gadgets and looking for that magical piece that's going to instantly make me better..... maybe I should just spend the $$$ on ammo and range fees.

                I thinik I'm going to play more with and without the BAD. I really like the theory behind using it and the simplicity of having all your controls at your finger tips.

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                • #9
                  3GunFunShooter
                  In Memoriam
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 2408

                  I reload before the rifle goes to slide lock. I competition you always want to reload before you run dry. Some handguns are set up not to lock back on the last shot. But when I do, I hit the latch.
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                  • #10
                    cal3gunner
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1629

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                    • #11
                      3GunFunShooter
                      In Memoriam
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2408

                      I guess I have been lucky, 4 USPSA 3 Gun Nationals and a SMM3G and I have never had to do a mandatory reload at a slide lock. But it is a good excerise to practice.
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                      • #12
                        Sgt5811
                        Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 310

                        Originally posted by bohoki
                        i slap the button that's why it is there

                        theoretically i only need to use the handle once per trip unless i use a beta mag
                        ^^^This^^^ So Damn true!!! Those of us that are so blessed (read cursed) to have to use these POS's know how unreliable they are.

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                        • #13
                          GeoffLinder
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2425

                          Slappin' the bolt release with the palm of your weak hand after it finishes seating the new mag is fastest and most foolproof way IMHO (provided you slap the right area that is). Just think of it as a slight detour on the way back to the shooting grip for the weakhand

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                          • #14
                            winxp_man
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2038

                            forgot what movie i was watching and during reload the guy pulled back the charge handle made me LOL hahahahehe
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                            • #15
                              GeoffLinder
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2425

                              In movies they always seem to shoot till empty and then kinda' stand around lookin' dumb for a bit, then they drop the gun, claw the old one out, look down and away from the action to grab another mag. Then it's inserted with the weapon held in some ridiculous position, tapped a couple times then the bolt worked with the strong hand and then finally, back into action. Best shot to shot reload I have ever seen in movies/tv could be properly timed with an hourglass

                              Never dismount the weapon, never look at the mag holder, never, ever take your eyes off the action and make it your goal to get your shot to shot time around a mag change down to the 1.5-2 second range.

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