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[CheapBloke]

Who is Brad? And you think someone cheap as me would pay someone else to teach me to pull the trigger?

But judging by how defensive you got, I would only guess that you're not as pissed.

I'm not on anyone's side. I never even had a foot in this mess of a training site. I just found it odd that people are still taking sides with a con man over a disgruntled fellow gunowner regarding what the situation is.

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[Mezcalfud]

I am not defending FS and I am very disappointed in what I have learned about FS, their leadership, business practices and treatment of their students and employees. I support those who are angry and feel for those who let themselves be taken by IP. I stay on this thread hoping for good news however unlikely, or to hear of the demise of FS.

I enjoyed the FS training and learned quite a bit. My journey to improve myself has been ongoing and FS was a tool to aid in this, as are a few other organizations. Recently, my son began his journey along side mine and FS was a great resource. We enjoyed classes and the time spent in Pahrump as well. I actually enjoyed going back to the basics and had to work even harder to set a good example for him.

FS was good fundamental training, with good instructors. The curriculum clearly "mirrored" other's and that is where I find the comments about FS "bad habits" a bit silly. Aside from minor differences (weaver vs. isosceles or low ready vs. sul, etc.) there is little that differentiates good training groups until you graduate past the fundamentals and start running and gunning. I am not defending FS but I am calling BS on those who we all have had on the line with us, that can't demonstrate the fundamentals, can't adjust for variations that expose them to new methods and can't find what works for them. These same people then say " I learned bad habits at XYZ" and that then perpetuates the repetitive internet FUD.

[Bralowe]

Haha. Dude's been venting for 31 pages. And you need to hop off his jock.

I'm pissed, but I'm not going to blame and insult everyone who has ever taken a class there like 'ole w00dy is doing. Dude has some issues.

[-hanko]

Are you also going to show us where the bad doctor touched you, too? Or was it Brad that did unspeakable things to you?

w00dmaster is a troll. Don't try and invalidate the rest of us being pissed because others haven't trolled on 30+ pages like he has.

It was and still is Dr. Piazza who did and continues to do unspeakable things.

[prod39]

I thought he filed for bankruptcy?

[-hanko]

I thought he filed for bankruptcy?

He did.

He should have added the "morally bankrupt" part.

[NorthBay Shooter]

Speaking of BK, what is the latest and greatest from the creditors?

[Jedi54]

Things have been quiet lately.
Not sure if there's been any big updates

[VolvoWrench]

Is F.S. still in operation right now?

[sarbiker]

Is F.S. still in operation right now?

Yes and the good doctor is still grifting during the BK...!!!

[Jedi54]

They're open and doing classes but this is the super slow season.
Once we get through labor day and the new Season starts it'll be interesting to see what attendance looks like.

[LV_G22]

I have been out there training this Summer.

Classes running as usual. 6AM - 12:30P.

Hot with low attendance, just like every Summer....

[Doctor_Chicago]

Speaking of BK, what is the latest and greatest from the creditors?

Chapter 11 plan extended for details from August 4th until August 26th when Front Sight has to file the plan. A hearing on the plan is scheduled for September 23rd.

There are a couple of things happening between FS and LVDF in the early part of September and needs to be ruled on by September 9th by the Judge. This was left over from the end of July Hearings.

[Doctor_Chicago]

Things have been quiet lately.
Not sure if there's been any big updates

Here you go a personal answer just for you: (j/k)

Chapter 11 plan extended for details from August 4th until August 26th when Front Sight has to file the plan. A hearing on the plan is scheduled for September 23rd.

There are a couple of things happening between FS and LVDF in the early part of September and needs to be ruled on by September 9th by the Judge. This was left over from the end of July Hearings.

[NorthBay Shooter]

Chapter 11 plan extended for details from August 4th until August 26th when Front Sight has to file the plan. A hearing on the plan is scheduled for September 23rd.

There are a couple of things happening between FS and LVDF in the early part of September and needs to be ruled on by September 9th by the Judge. This was left over from the end of July Hearings.

Thanks Doc. Is there a new link to court documents? The ones I find have a fee associated with them. I feel bad having to bug you for updates.