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  • steelciocc
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 347

    How ‘bout some copy/paste for those of us who don’t do the facebook?

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    • rodralig
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2016
      • 4262




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      WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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      • JoyfulJoker
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2018
        • 745

        Never been to FS. Had an offer but said no after I asked some instructors I have trained with and they all said the same “ never been impressed with the skill set of anyone who trained at FS. “ Sounds like it was cheap for a reason. Pay for better instructors , the top people travel to different clubs who host them and there are lots of competent instructors in California. You don’t get a decoder ring but you get real training. Sounds like it was better than nothing but not much else. Better to take one real good class and practice on your own rather than take 10 crap classes and get some meaningless gold membership. If you have nothing to compare it to maybe. My dream shotgun class would be with Clint Smith. He teaches in LV too. Pricey but it’s a real class by a real expert.

        From the horses mouth in the links , it was a scam for 3rd rate training from day one . Accept it and move on .

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        • Spartan301
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2013
          • 2048

          Originally posted by JoyfulJoker
          Never been to FS. Had an offer but said no after I asked some instructors I have trained with and they all said the same “ never been impressed with the skill set of anyone who trained at FS. “ Sounds like it was cheap for a reason. Pay for better instructors , the top people travel to different clubs who host them and there are lots of competent instructors in California. You don’t get a decoder ring but you get real training. Sounds like it was better than nothing but not much else. Better to take one real good class and practice on your own rather than take 10 crap classes and get some meaningless gold membership. If you have nothing to compare it to maybe. My dream shotgun class would be with Clint Smith. He teaches in LV too. Pricey but it’s a real class by a real expert.

          From the horses mouth in the links , it was a scam for 3rd rate training from day one . Accept it and move on .
          Thanks for proving to us that you don't know what the **** your talking about!

          Secondly the whole FS experience has been nothing but positive and good training.

          If it wasn't for the FS staff and their Professional attitude, it is what got FS as far as it did.

          No, I'm not happy about the current situation. But belittling of the training and the FS staff is unacceptable.

          Especially from people who haven't been there.
          Last edited by Spartan301; 07-17-2022, 9:36 PM.
          U.S. Army/Sgt./67N (Aviation/1st CAV DIV, FT. HOOD/2nd INF DIV, S. KOREA/NTC FLT DET, FT. IRWIN) Veteran '81-'86

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          • Bralowe
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2014
            • 734

            Originally posted by Spartan301
            Thanks for proving to us that you don't know what the **** your talking about!

            Secondly the whole FS experience has been nothing but positive and good training.

            If it wasn't for the FS staff and their Professional attitude, it is what got FS as far as it did.

            No, I'm not happy about the current situation. But belittling of the training and the FS staff is unacceptable.

            Especially from people who haven't been there.
            Well said!

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            • steelciocc
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 347

              Thanks for the screenshot @rodralig ! I personally never cared for Chachi’s style but, looks like he has fans : )

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              • JoyfulJoker
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2018
                • 745

                Sorry you got scammed into training at a McDojo. When you see who DIDN’T train and who DOESN’T endorse the training there it’s clear what they were about. Even in the shooting world , there are McDojos and useless katas . It’s the Aikido of shooting. McDojo life exposes all the fantasy based martial arts and it’s crazy to watch all the folks saying their martial art is real even after being shown otherwise. If your ego is wrapped up being in the super secret black belt platinum circle club , it might be devastating. We all get suckered.

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                • Mezcalfud
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1480

                  cool story bro

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                  • Citizen_B
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1429

                    You think you know what you're talking about, but you actually don't. You have bits and pieces correct but your overall conclusion is incorrect. Sorry. Unfortunately it's unlikely any amount of rational discussion debating your opinion may change your mind. Think about that, and it should provide the real answer.

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                    • Spartan301
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 2048

                      Originally posted by Mezcalfud
                      cool story bro
                      Last edited by Spartan301; 07-18-2022, 12:05 PM.
                      U.S. Army/Sgt./67N (Aviation/1st CAV DIV, FT. HOOD/2nd INF DIV, S. KOREA/NTC FLT DET, FT. IRWIN) Veteran '81-'86

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                      • Vinnie Boombatz
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2020
                        • 3036

                        Originally posted by JoyfulJoker
                        Never been to FS. Had an offer but said no after I asked some instructors I have trained with and they all said the same “ never been impressed with the skill set of anyone who trained at FS. “ Sounds like it was cheap for a reason. Pay for better instructors , the top people travel to different clubs who host them and there are lots of competent instructors in California. You don’t get a decoder ring but you get real training. Sounds like it was better than nothing but not much else. Better to take one real good class and practice on your own rather than take 10 crap classes and get some meaningless gold membership. If you have nothing to compare it to maybe. My dream shotgun class would be with Clint Smith. He teaches in LV too. Pricey but it’s a real class by a real expert.

                        From the horses mouth in the links , it was a scam for 3rd rate training from day one . Accept it and move on .
                        FUD.

                        Dude’s never been, but apparently is a multiple degree black belt in the art of know it all.

                        Are you Steven Seagal?

                        Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 07-18-2022, 12:06 PM.
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                        • Spartan301
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2048

                          Bahahaha
                          U.S. Army/Sgt./67N (Aviation/1st CAV DIV, FT. HOOD/2nd INF DIV, S. KOREA/NTC FLT DET, FT. IRWIN) Veteran '81-'86

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                          • -hanko
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 14174

                            As long as Piazza runs FS, "real good" programs come with "real good" catches.

                            If you think that Piazza will change his methods of running FS, the bull shat will continue unabated. If you're thinking that improvements are right around the corner, it's time to put down the crack pipe and face reality.
                            True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                            Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                            Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                            A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                            • damon1272
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 4857

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                              • Vinnie Boombatz
                                Veteran Member
                                • Feb 2020
                                • 3036

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