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[-hanko]

Finally an actual business model that makes sense...

Please explain how that makes sense and can happen.

You might also explain why Piazza is not again shoveling you-know-what.

[AR15fan]

Everything you are asking is subject to the approval or disapproval of any reorganization plan as presented to the bankruptcy court. Nothing is known this early. And everything can be wiped out as the result of negotiations with creditors and other stakeholders.

[Paseclipse]

Link about the reorganization if it hasn't been posted yet- https://www.frontsight.com/reorganization/

To skip all the fluff and drama scroll down to where it says "Here's WHY:"

IDK, I can't say I like the $100 per day per student fee. I liked to occasionally go to Skill Builders to brush back up on everything and at $200 I can't see that happening now for the lower courses.

$100 per day is reasonable compared to other places, but when you factor in gas, food, lodging and travel time, it's cheaper to just go to a local trainer. Not to mention the yearly background check fee of $50.

Honestly, a yearly membership fee of say a few hundred dollars wouldn't bother me that much. After a few courses it would make up for it. And I agree with some other people in this post... I REALLY wish Iggy would just drop the whole resort nonsense and keep it the way it is. More overhead costs will just bury the place even deeper.

It's just too bad this has all come down the tube. I had a lot of fun going there, met some good friend's and I will have lifelong fond memories at that place. Hopefully they can keep the place going.

[damon1272]

I see it going away after a bit. Bankruptcy spells bad management. You are right when you add up all the expense it is cheaper to train at home.
Too bad as I really enjoyed it.

[-hanko]

It's just too bad this has all come down the tube. I had a lot of fun going there, met some good friend's and I will have lifelong fond memories at that place. Hopefully they can keep the place going.

Why would you think that Piazza is not lying now ???...He's lied since he started FS in socal

[NorthBay Shooter]

While the chapter 11 is a smart business move (based on where the organization is now), it is really just a way for him to buy time while looking for a buyer. This is the beginning of the end. I will never attend another class there at 100/day.

[missiondude]

I just canceled a class that was split between the end of May and beginning of June. Not going to get there and find that they want the $100 a day for half a class, or spend all the money to get there and find the place locked. Eff Iggy, I am done.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

I just canceled a class that was split between the end of May and beginning of June. Not going to get there and find that they want the $100 a day for half a class, or spend all the money to get there and find the place locked. Eff Iggy, I am done.

I have a few classes booked for later this fall and found out that you can’t use Front Sight Bucks for any portion of the the daily class fees. Part of me doesn’t mind paying the fee, but another part of me worries about paying for a class that’s so far off in the future with the tumultuous state of affairs surrounding the place, especially in the latest emails where Piazza is still on a mission to create the “resort”.

I’m just going to wait and see how things evolve and pan out over the next 6 months or so before committing to paying those fees, spending money on gas and lodging, etc.

[Citizen_B]

I'm still unsure legally how he can just declare bankruptcy, reset membership obligations, and start fresh with new terms like nothing happened.

If he does escape the legal hurdles, I strongly suspect he runs the same game all over again. More crazy promises, selling "assets" to raise cash, then over time diluting said "assets".

[beanz2]

[hermosabeach]

This thread probably makes people on the hate list to be cancelled


The Chapter 11 Reorganization allows Front Sight the opportunity to terminate the memberships of those in the organization who have in any way disparaged Front Sight, its management and staff, or aligned with the enemies of Front Sight.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

This thread probably makes people on the hate list to be cancelled


The Chapter 11 Reorganization allows Front Sight the opportunity to terminate the memberships of those in the organization who have in any way disparaged Front Sight, its management and staff, or aligned with the enemies of Front Sight.

[LV_G22]

Just finished 2-day Advanced Tactical Handgun today.

36 students on our range, 38 next range.

Great class, great instructors.....

It did get a bit hot

Chapter 11 bankruptcy (re-organization) is a process that must work it's way through the court system, with approval by the court for all significant plans.

It is a re-organization, which means that:

Frontsight is open for training.

Currently, they seem to be honoring memberships with the addition of a $100 per student per day fee.

Brad Ackman addressed the bankruptcy in the classroom yesterday morning. He referred you to Naish's e-mail regarding Frontsight's thoughts and reasons. He also stressed that this is now a formal court-mediated process, so there are actually no exact answers to the millions of member questions regarding the issues.

I will add that anything else posted here is pure speculation, conjecture, and members own ideas for what they think should happen....

[w00dmaster]

$100 day

So your membership and FS bucks, gifts and everything is gone? Welcome to the club of founding members. If this works as izzy says he again gets everything he wants and is protected by the courts? $100 a day is not enough to keep the doors open and he will have to give the reorganization courts a viable plan out of bankruptcy. I see by the comments, you freebee guys don't like having to even pay $100 day. You were ok as long as it was free. chapter 11 will not make the fraud case from his investors go away. Who ever told him that were wrong, if that was the case every Ponzi case would just go to chapter 11? Its over Front site is done, and yes to make a class date, send money not knowing when you get there if they will even be open is foolish. The fat lady is going to sing soon!

[Doctor_Chicago]

I will be the largest unsecured creditor of Front Sight and I will be involved in the 341 Creditors Meeting. There are many things to be considered and will take time to work through it with all parties involved.

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