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  • 98taco3
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 4

    Originally posted by 1911-CV
    So the next lawsuit will be to reinstate folks who dared to think (and comment on the Internet) that they might have to sue to retain the benefits of their existing contract?
    Not sure what the next step is. However I do 100% believe nothing at all would have been walked back from the original restructuring email had nobody at least started the organizing process. I think the amount of push back was unexpected, he likely thought everyone would send him more money no questions asked...

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    • beanz2
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 12032

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      The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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      • rodralig
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2016
        • 4262

        Originally posted by beanz2
        easier to sneak into DG in a large class than a small class.
        I would agree.

        That said, I don't think it would apply to the Skill Builder due to the turning targets (yeah, I experienced those turners for the first time last Wed).

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        WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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        • rodralig
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2016
          • 4262

          Originally posted by Jedi54
          I miss the OG thread...
          Originally posted by TeamAllen
          Amen!
          Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
          This really is getting ridiculous.
          Change of pace?

          Maybe check this Facebook group out?

          Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.


          If I had found this group way sooner - I may have tried other foodie places in Pahrump.


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          WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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          • beanz2
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 12032

            Originally posted by rodralig
            I would agree.

            That said, I don't think it would apply to the Skill Builder due to the turning targets (yeah, I experienced those turners for the first time last Wed).

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            Originally posted by rodralig
            Change of pace?

            Maybe check this Facebook group out?

            Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.


            If I had found this group way sooner - I may have tried other foodie places in Pahrump.


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            The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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            • Jedi54
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 1012

              It's a combination of most of those. Keep in mind by test time, the Instructors have been evaluating the students for 3 days and have a good feel for who is making the times, who may be struggling quite a bit and who is 'in it.'
              When observing the line, they're more focused on the the G/DG candidates and keeping others in their peripheral. They're trained to listen for a shot after the whistle, and can turn their head to look for who shot late as odds are the weapon is in recoil still and they can see who shot late
              Keep in mind unless they're absolutely certain who was late they won't give the penalty.

              Skill builders are a whole different story

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              • Vinnie Boombatz
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2020
                • 3036

                It's just a matter of whether they see you or not. With turning targets though, it's a different story.
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                • Vinnie Boombatz
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 3036

                  Originally posted by rodralig
                  Change of pace?

                  Maybe check this Facebook group out?

                  Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.


                  If I had found this group way sooner - I may have tried other foodie places in Pahrump.


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                  By ridiculous I was referring to Piazza's latest email. He's all over the place.
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                  • NorthBay Shooter
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 679

                    what do folks think about the latest email? Does anyone believe that it was always the plan to not restructure, and it was just a plan to separate the wheat from the chaff? Or to stir the pot?

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                    • Citizen_B
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 1429

                      I think there are 2 possibilities:

                      1) The restructure was a funding ploy where he planned on offering "two paths" all along.

                      2) The restructure as originally stated was intended for all members, but he changed that plan after all the member pushback and fall-out.

                      He's claiming (1) was the plan all along. If true that approach was an obvious mess up. I think that's possible and would fit his repeated sales tactic of taking two and giving one trying to give the appearance of you getting a good deal. I actually don't think this was his plan in this case, regardless of what he's claiming in emails. I think that because it was an ultimatum so extreme, it's not the approach one takes if trying to continue the game. Maybe he simply miscalculated. He also put a lot of thought into the new funding path, and that's not something you pitch lightly.

                      I think it was more likely (2). I'm thinking he wanted a real reset for all members. A do-over for whatever reason. Maybe it was to rest the pyramid scheme and play again, maybe it was an honest attempt to restructure the business model to something sustainable. I think the former is more likely because he stated in the recent email this was just a ploy. If he wanted an honest model reset, he wouldn't have said that as a redirection attempt.

                      In any case, I think he changed up the plan. Maybe it was the litigation pressure from members, maybe it was the epiphany that he really f'd up. In a case like this, any attention is not necessarily good attention. If the Gabe Suarez rumor is true, he's got to be seriously concerned about royally pissing off literally thousands of members.

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                      • rodralig
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4262

                        Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
                        By ridiculous I was referring to Piazza's latest email. He's all over the place.
                        I know... That is why I am changing the topic - recommended food stops in Pahrump.

                        There is really nothing we can do with Iggy and his antics, er, emails. #banned

                        So, let us discuss something else in the meantime...


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                        WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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                        • acegunnr
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2334

                          Originally posted by NorthBay Shooter
                          what do folks think about the latest email? Does anyone believe that it was always the plan to not restructure, and it was just a plan to separate the wheat from the chaff? Or to stir the pot?
                          I don't think it was well thought out as what he is trying to make us believe. To throw Rick Green under the bus as he did, along with a lot of loyal supporters, shows us that it was ill-conceived.

                          In other news, there have been some good recent trip reports coming out of Front Sight showing that the training is going on as normal. This time of the year, attendance is normally light, especially in the mid-week courses, so the next coming weeks and months, when the weather turns pleasant, will be most telling.
                          Last edited by acegunnr; 02-14-2022, 12:36 PM.

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                          • Jedi54
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1012

                            I don't usually read his email as they go to a dedicated folder before hitting my inbox.
                            What happened with Rick Green?

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                            • Muzz
                              Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 202

                              Originally posted by Jedi54
                              I don't usually read his email as they go to a dedicated folder before hitting my inbox.
                              What happened with Rick Green?

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                              • Citizen_B
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 1429

                                Rick did say that at first when the original restructuring email came out, with the caveat that he would fulfill any obligations with people already booked. I don't think it's clear if he's done with FS permanently now, but there is certainly irreparable permanent damage there. The fall-out with Rick is also why I don't think Piazza did the two paths intentionally. If it was intentional, it seems amateurish not to foresee the blow back from people like Rick.

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