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[anonymouscuban]

You need more training. You can't practice effectively what you don't know. Especially if you want to actually build up self defense skills as opposed to learning how to play a game with a gun. After that, look into IDPA.

That didn't take long.

Hey OP, send me a PM if you're interested in shooting a USPSA match. Be happy to share information to get you on the right path. USPSA is where it's at as far as practical/action pistol competition. It will also help you become very proficient shooting and handling a pistol. Just be warned, the skills you learn will for sure get you killed in the streets!

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Glock 17. Ive been an instructor since the late 90's. Shot alot of action pistol. Nothing is easier to learn to shoot well than a Glock 17. I've seen it over and over and over with hundreds of student and other competitors. Simple manual of arms, amazing reliability and durability, esay/cheap parts replacements when it does wear out/break. Amazing factory support (show up at any GSSF match and the factory armors will literally rebuild the gun with any new parts it needs, for free.)

Your points make sense - i appreciate it and will take a look at glock 17s

[foxtrotuniformlima]

OP - Where are you located?

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OP - Where are you located?

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[OCEquestrian]

Only one pistol course at ShootSocal couple months back. I am very much amateur - not trying to give the impression that I am going out there to win comps at all. Really isnt my goal - more just for fun and progress.

Just looking for opinions if the CZ75 would be a decent choice considering the earlier variables. I also am very open to taking more courses - i already planned on going to a couple comps just to watch.

It take more than just watching a match or you tube videos.

That didn't take long.

Hey OP, send me a PM if you're interested in shooting a USPSA match. Be happy to share information to get you on the right path. USPSA is where it's at as far as practical/action pistol competition. It will also help you become very proficient shooting and handling a pistol. Just be warned, the skills you learn will for sure get you killed in the streets!

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I do not recommend the OP shoot a match until he has has completed a basic tactical handgun class where he will lean correct safety, presentations (drawing from holster), marksmanship skills, weapons manipulation (reloading/clearing malfunctions) and moving/shooting with a weapon. Take some classes, learn what you dont know, develop those basic skills and muscle memory and then go to shoot a match. Do people just show up and shoot matches without any training? Sure, but just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do something.

Learn all these CORRECTLY and train which means lots of repetitions until they become muscle memory. Start with the correct fundamentals, learn to fight with your handgun and build MUSCLE MEMORY and THEN learn to compete with it as competition relies on all those same skills.

Lots of schools beyond my recommendation below, but do get some PROFESSIONAL instruction and learn to do it correctly. CalGuns thread on shooting schools...https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...highlight=tftt

There are numerous good tactical handgun schools in Southern California. I can highly recommend Direct Action Group and their Tactical Handgun level I&II classes as excellent foundational classes to take you where you want to go. They are being offered the last weekend of this month...30/31 JAN 2021 and are taught up at Burro Canyon Shooting range above AZUZA.

The School: https://dag-usa.com/

Instructor Bio's: https://dag-usa.com/intel-2/cadre/

Classes: https://dag-usa.com/tactical-pistol-group/

[anonymouscuban]

It take more than just watching a match or you tube videos.







I do not recommend the OP shoot a match until he has has completed a basic tactical handgun class where he will lean correct safety, presentations (drawing from holster), marksmanship skills, weapons manipulation (reloading/clearing malfunctions) and moving/shooting with a weapon.



Learn all these CORRECTLY and train which means lots of repetitions until they become muscle memory.



Start with the correct fundamentals, learn to fight with your handgun and build MUSCLE MEMORY and THEN learn to compete with it as competition relies on all those same skills.

Never implied that he's ready to shoot a match. I offered to give him advice and asked him to PM if he'd like it. Rather than give him generic advice on a thread like this, I would be happy to start a dialogue with him via PM or even over the phone. If he is local to me, I can set him up with some contacts to get the proper training and I can give him some guidance on dry fire and gear.

Up to him. I get nothing out of it other than helping someone get into the sport. Paying forward the help I got from veterans in the sport when I started.

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[OCEquestrian]

Never implied that he's ready to shoot a match. I offered to give him advice and asked him to PM if he'd like it. Rather than give him generic advice on a thread like this, I would be happy to start a dialogue with him via PM or even over the phone. If he is local to me, I can set him up with some contacts to get the proper training and I can give him some guidance on dry fire and gear.

Up to him. I get nothing out of it other than helping someone get into the sport. Paying forward the help I got from veterans in the sport when I started.

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Sorry I misinterpreted your post. So many out there who will just say "come one down and do it", which I feel is reckless. I think new shooters have some instruction under their belt to set them up for success right out of the gate. Nothing wrong with a mentor to help a newbie wade thru it all. I started Austin out by paying for him to take the TacPistol I&II classes with DAG and then focusing on dry fire and some live fire drills to TRAIN the skills learned for a month or so after the classes to develop the correct muscle memory before taking him to his first match... IDPA. I insisted he do IDPA matches and focus on accuracy first/speed second for 6 months before going to USPSA. The goal being to see how fast he could shoot perfect zero down matches. Then I took him to hsi first Prado Running Gun match and let him loose.

Once he experienced USPSA.. that was all she wrote...the boy was made for it! He keeps trying to get me to come shoot USPSA but it's just not my thing...

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Guys - I did not intend that I will show up to a match and compete in a month. I am absolutely up for taking multiple courses before signing up to a match. I only said that I want to make a goal of doing one this year... and would like to buy a gun within a certain budget and with a certain purpose... and was hoping to get advice on if the CZ75 was a good choice. I do not want to start with the .45 I have currently and think a 9 will be more managable.

To be completely honest, I am not even commited to the goal yet - it is just a thought. I am not a child/am middle-aged... I understand that there are physical and mental processes associated with gaining the skill to do X.

[ysr_racer]

I always recommend to people to go and watch a match or two, so at least you get an idea of what goes on.

Bring ear and eye protection, and stay WELL behind the line of fire.

[OCEquestrian]

Guys - I did not intend that I will show up to a match and compete in a month. I am absolutely up for taking multiple courses before signing up to a match. I only said that I want to make a goal of doing one this year... and would like to buy a gun within a certain budget and with a certain purpose... and was hoping to get advice on if the CZ75 was a good choice. I do not want to start with the .45 I have currently and think a 9 will be more managable.

To be completely honest, I am not even commited to the goal yet - it is just a thought. I am not a child/am middle-aged... I understand that there are physical and mental processes associated with gaining the skill to do X.

Your heading down the path with the right approach. I shoot IDPA matches and use a HK VP9 and prior to that I used a SiG P226mk25 and before that a 1911.

The pistols I see most frequently at the IDPA matches (USPSA guns are usually more customized regardless of make/model and I am sure some UDPA guys will chime in as well) I attend are:

Glocks 34/19/17
CZ P01/75/Shadow
Smith and Wesson M&P
SiG P320
Springfield XD
Walther PPQ
SiG P226
Beretta 92
1911 .45 and 9mm

[kramynot]

I picked up a CZ75 SP01 and started to use it in matches a couple of years ago. One thing I would recommend is make sure it fits your hand particularly if you have to shoot DA because it has a long trigger reach and thicker stock grips. My hands are on the small side and I had to swap to thin grips to operate the controls and I still find the DA trigger reach to be pretty long. I was considering installing one of the trigger reach reduction kits that are available but instead installed a larger safety lever and started shooting cocked and locked like a 1911.

[rodralig]

I picked up a CZ75 SP01 and started to use it in matches a couple of years ago. One thing I would recommend is make sure it fits your hand particularly if you have to shoot DA because it has a long trigger reach and thicker stock grips. My hands are on the small side and I had to swap to thin grips to operate the controls and I still find the DA trigger reach to be pretty long. I was considering installing one of the trigger reach reduction kits that are available but instead installed a larger safety lever and started shooting cocked and locked like a 1911.

As per the Rules in BOTH USPSA and IDPA, you will need to shoot decocked in the Production and Stock Service divisions, respectively.

If you shoot your SP01 cocked and locked like a 1911, then you should be in the Limited or Enhanced Service divisions, respectively.

TUSPSA is where it's at as far as practical/action pistol competition. It will also help you become very proficient shooting and handling a pistol.

He keeps trying to get me to come shoot USPSA but it's just not my thing...

We can have it BOTH ways.

@OCEquestrian tries USPSA; and @anonymouscuban tries IDPA...


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[OCEquestrian]

As per the Rules in BOTH USPSA and IDPA, you will need to shoot decocked in the Production and Stock Service divisions, respectively.

If you shoot your SP01 cocked and locked like a 1911, then you should be in the Limited or Enhanced Service divisions, respectively.







We can have it BOTH ways.

@OCEquestrian tries USPSA; and @anonymouscuban tries IDPA...


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I cant afford to shot USPSA with those round counts! Austin is sponsored and gets free ammo. At least the Prado IDPA has gone to reduced (I know) round count to accommodate the current ammo crisis.

[rodralig]

I cant afford to shot USPSA with those round counts! Austin is sponsored and gets free ammo. At least the Prado IDPA has gone to reduced (I know) round count to accommodate the current ammo crisis.

*LOL* I was thinking the same thing... How to continue with USPSA with the 250+ rounds per match requirements.

But I did hear that USPSA PRG (Prado Running Gun) have been designing their stages such it totals to 150 rounds per match. Still haven't tried it yet...


For now, I am contenting myself with this...
(at least it helps in practicing transitions and merging targets)
Then a 50-rd live-fire maintenance run per month with Dot Torture...




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[kramynot]

As per the Rules in BOTH USPSA and IDPA, you will need to shoot decocked in the Production and Stock Service divisions, respectively.

If you shoot your SP01 cocked and locked like a 1911, then you should be in the Limited or Enhanced Service divisions, respectively.


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Yup, Limited or Multi-gun. Division didn't really matter to me because I miss the A-Zone just as easily in Limited as I did in Production!