IDPA spread fire???

[Timberland]

First off I hate spread fire, I can not see a pratical reason for it. Is in in the sport for any other reason than to screw with the shooter's game/mind? It takes less time IMHO to just double-tap all the way through rather than put a single round in each target and then re-engage. In reality I would take the outlaw josey wales approach and engange the largest threat first, for visual refrence skip to 1.25




What say you all, or am I just bitter after getting one to many procedurals.

[mvpatriot]

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[chickenfried]

[Timberland]

The video was just for fun, gotta love Clint.

[eijjie33]

OMG it's josey wales!!

[arfan66]

Just my $.02.....

From a competition stand point, I agree with you. However, from a tactical point of view whatever keeps your opponent(s) off balance is beneficial to your survival. Not sure if this analogy is appropriate but if your opponent's foot was sticking out from behind cover are you going to wait for a center of mass hit or take the shot? Me, I'm taking the shot. 1) If he's hurtin' he's not as effective. 2) Chances are good that more'll show after he's hit.

So, make 'em all hurt quickly. Thus slowing further action against you and increasing the amount of time you have to deal with them or additional threats.

But don't follow my advice, I haven't shot a match well lately


Jeff

[randy]

It's a game. it's the rules. it's the way they want you to do it.

[E. Fudd]

The example I was given on why this is more tactical/practical was a LEO (and competitive shooter) once had to engage 3 armed opponents in a scenario very similar to an El Presidente drill. He successfully double-tapped and neutralized the first two before being shot and killed by the third...

[Timberland]

The example I was given on why this is more tactical/practical was a LEO (and competitive shooter) once had to engage 3 armed opponents in a scenario very similar to an El Presidente drill. He successfully double-tapped and neutralized the first two before being shot and killed by the third...

That outcome sounds like what would happen regardless if he double tapped all the way through or just put one hole in each. I think that IDPA's ruels are more based on getting people to shoot a certian game, just like it was once "tactical" to shoot your .38 snubnose one handed with the other covering your vitals. Tactics change, if you are programed to double tap, then transition, in a tense sitiuation that is what should be done.

[mocos]

timberland....you should try your theory out.....with water guns...or paint ball..how fast can you pump out 6 rounds sorta accurately...

[ar15barrels]

It's a game. it's the rules. it's the way they want you to do it.

It's rules like that that remove the fun factor from that organization.

[Gryff]

It's rules like that that remove the fun factor from that organization.

No it's not.

The rationale is to engage each target in the fastest manner possible. There is no way to do that except to shoot each guy once before putting a second round into anyone.

Like E. Fudd said, you may double-tap #1 and 2 damn quick, but you are giving a lot of time to #3 to do bad things to you. Spread fire is a valid engagement sequence because you are initially engaging the widest number of targets in the fastest manner possible. Just like tactical reloads, it isn't necessarily something that you are guaranteed to need, but it isn't a skill that is worthless to have.

The only IDPA rule that I think is ridiculous is that you can't drop an empty mag if there is still a round in the chamber. Mandating a tac reload in this situation makes no sense whatsoever.

But that's the rules of the game. They're the same for everyone, and they make sense if you try to understand them. And since IDPA isn't tactical training, but instead a competition that tries to make a game out of defensive principals, it won't be perfect in every way. It does do a damn good job out of providing us with a combination of fun and the opportunity to dramtically improve our weapon-handling mechanics.

[randy]

I like IDPA. I don't shoot it anymore because of scheduling. It is a fun game and got me started in action shooting.

My complaint in the game is the extremely over used word of tactical. Get over it it's a game.

In 3 gun I shoot in the tactical class. I hate that term it denotes I use a scope on my rifle.

[kato4moto]

timberland....you should try your theory out.....with water guns...or paint ball..how fast can you pump out 6 rounds sorta accurately...

If you're Jerry Miculek, you can get six rounds on target, reload and put six more rounds on target in 2.99 seconds...with a revolver! He is The Man!

[Gryff]

He is The Man!

Nope. A animatronic robot jointly developed by Disney and Smith & Wesson. And he's a world-class nice guy, to boot.