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  • Pauliedad
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2012
    • 2095

    Issues with reloading the big boys?

    Been reloading for some time now pistol and riffle and am adding
    50 AE, 454 Casull, and SW500 to the mix. Anything I should be aware of beyond the usual?
    I'm specifically thinking about crimp and if I should think about departs crimp dies to compliment the RCBS 3 die sets I have on the way.
    As for powder I have been using IMR 4227 for 44mag and I read h110 is a favorite for many. Haven't been able to find any of that recently so wondering if anyone has some experience with IMR 4227 that they could share.
    Thanks in advance for whatever you can add to this.
  • #2
    stilly
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2009
    • 10685

    I have heard weirdly good things about AA 1680 for 50 AE... Which is weird in itself for coming in a PINK and black bottle...
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    • #3
      Pauliedad
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      • Dec 2012
      • 2095

      That's funny. I've read some of your posts on Deagle reloads re .44 mag and have been happy with mid to upper loads with IMR 4227

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      • #4
        Cowboy T
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2010
        • 5725

        I've done some .454C for the Super Redhawk. I've found no need to use a separate crimp die for this round, even with a compressed load of 2400. The good ol' combo seat/crimp die seems to do the trick.

        Haven't tried IMR 4227, but just reading the load data, it seems heavier bullets are better for that powder.
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        • #5
          JTROKS
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          • Nov 2007
          • 13093

          Don't forget to use magnum rifle primers for 454 Casull using 296/110, 4227. When I use those powders I watch my load density. With 44 magnum I like AA9 for 200 grn or lower bullet weight. My DEagle loves 180 grain JHP bullets and max charge of AA9.
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          • #6
            CGT80
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 2981

            Trail boss for light revolver loads. I like to use 70% of the air space left under the bullet when seated, which is the starting load. More isn't necessarily better with this powder. The powder isn't cheap, but anyone can shoot these and the weight of the gun would likely wear you out before the light recoil. This most likely won't cycle any autos. As long as you don't compress the powder with the bullet, you can't use too much in a modern firearm.

            A5744 for mid to warm loads. This is a stick powder with a very wide load range and it is bulky so it fills the cases decently. This will make light loads but it is not a good powder for that due to lack of burned powder and the cost.

            W296/H110 for hot loads with magnum primers. These are the big boy loads. Don't go below the starting load. Lil gun is reported to have some bad flame cutting of the top strap of revolvers, where I have not read of those issues with this powder.

            I load for the 460 S&W cartridge and use it in a Smith 460 XVR 8 3/8".

            I also use the 45 colt cases for the close range stuff and run a 230 lrn (same as I run in the 1911's). I haven't had a problem with fouling in the revolver, but it is good to have a brush on hand just in case. Some people don't like to shoot the shorties and say it is due to the build up. Other people don't like the lighter loads. This option is very cheap to reload for. I don't bother with the 454 case for my pistol since the other two cover anything the 454 could do.

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            • #7
              stilly
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2009
              • 10685

              Originally posted by Pauliedad
              That's funny. I've read some of your posts on Deagle reloads re .44 mag and have been happy with mid to upper loads with IMR 4227
              I think I hated 4227 powder but now I think I need to buy some more. I had a bottle of it (metal container) and It was either beige or gray, I think beige, but it just seemed to STANK after I shot. Like a burned plastic smell. But Maybe I need to get some more because I never had any issues, just that smell.

              Meanwhile, 24.78gr of H-110 pushing a 240gr FPRN out the deagle gave me an O-face the other night. I think Imma call that load "Better than Sex..."
              7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

              Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



              And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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              • #8
                Whiterabbit
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2010
                • 7594

                no, there are no gimmes or gotchas about reloading those cases. No different than 45 colt and 45/70. You could call those cases the original style, we have more experience with that type of case than any other.

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                • #9
                  Yreka
                  Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 316

                  I've been loading 440 gr non GC lead over Trailboss to make powder-puff loads for a friends SW500

                  Nothing special really, light roll-crimp just like other "rim" cases w/ Lead projectiles.. (using the Lee die set)

                  I haven't loaded anything nuclear for it yet, although he as been asking about those 700gr "T-rex Thumpers"

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                  • #10
                    Pauliedad
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2095

                    I'm shooting a BFR in 454casull and am getting a S&W 500 out of jail in a couple of weeks.
                    I have the .50 AE barrel and have shot Hornady factory rounds but want to not buy factory for those anymore. Actually, I'll buy factory mostly for the brass.

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