Where is the .308 Brass ?

[hylander]

Did Winchester quit making .308 Brass and Ammo ?
I have not seen any for awhile now.
I need some Winchester .308 Brass

[Mayor McRifle]

I haven't heard that Winshester is out of the .308 brass business, but a lot of retailers do seem to be out of stock.

[mycrstuff]

Can you use 7.62 NATO brass? Mil surplus is all over the place. If you are loading for a semi the 7.62 should be ok. If loading for a bolt action I would stick with the commercial brass.

[Bainter1212]

It is in high demand. Hence the scarcity.

[Rock6.3]

Most calibers of new Winchester brass are unobtainable

[3RDGEARGRNDRR]

i just got some plinking WWB ammo, and saved the cases,

[hylander]

I just prefer Winchester brand for the .308
I actually work for a large retailer and have not seen any Win. brand .308 brass in several months.
We just got some 30-06 & 270 in stock.
GB has it sometimes but they are nuts, might as well buy Lapua it is going for cheaper.

[dskit]

I've been looking for Winchester 223 brass for a couple of years - out of stock everywhere. It just started to show up in the last 30 days at various sites - so I'm not sure what Winchester is up to.

[PSLguy]

About 10 years ago, one of the old timers at the club where I shoot gave me some good advice. He saw I was leaving all my brass and nicely told me that I should save all of it. I didn't reload then but his view was that I may one day get in to it, and if I didn't, I could just sell all the surplus brass.

I took his advice to heart and thereafter saved everything. That was perhaps the best advice I've ever gotten from someone regarding ammo.

At that time, I was burning through ammo cans of .223 and .308 so it sure stacked up over the years.

[Khromo]

I haven't seen Winchester .308 bras since Sandy Hook. I gave up looking.

I migrated over to Lapua. It costs, but it is very consistent and it seems to last and last. And it is always available! If you're not loading hot, you can get quite a few loadings out of it, and that makes the price a little easier to take.

[Grunt81]

I agree that .308 brass is hard to find. The only new, unfired brass I've seen in a store is PPU which was going for around $42/100.

Don't be afraid to use Lake City brass. Several distributors online sell once-fired LC brass for around $20 / 100 shipped, with an even better savings when you buy 500 cases at a time.

I've had great accuracy from LC. After complete brass processing (tumbling, lubing, resizing, trimming, chamfer, deburr, flash hole uniforming, and primer pocket uniforming), the extreme spread in case weight was around 2.5 grains over a batch of 100.

I will advise you one thing, you can take it or leave it. But when resizing LC 7.62 brass that was fired in a sloppy machine gun chamber, I resize once. Then, without taking the case out of the shell holder, I give it a third of turn, then resize again. Then give the case another 1/3 of a turn, and run it through the resizing die one last time for a total of three times. Dang if those cases don't have uniform shoulder angles after that.

[hylander]

Anyone have case capacity specs for the different brands ?
Say Win, Lapua, FC, LC, Norma, or even PMC

[Grunt81]

Be very careful of machine gun fired brass. I have tried this before and after re-sizing and trimming the brass a percentage will head separate on the first firing. A larger percentage will head separate on the second firing.

Too bad you had that experience with it. I've Full-length sized 3 times and neck sized 2 times and have had absolutely zero case failures of any kind. I even used a more than stout charge of 45.3 grains of Varget behind a 167 Lapua Scenar Seated to around 2.814" for a 0.010" jump. Recoil was noticeably harder than 44.8 grains, so I doubt I'll load that charge again. But still, no case failures. My trim length was 2.007" on average and I've trimmed these cases three times. My Lake City 05,06,09,10,11,12 aren't showing any signs being anywhere near separating, even without ever annealing them.

Were you running max loads or jamming the bullets into the lands when your LC cases failed? What was your OAL for those rounds?

[Nismo228]

Cabelas has it on back order right now.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Reloading/Reloading-Brass|/pc/104792580/c/104761080/sc/112555980/Winchester174-Unprimed-Rifle-Brass-Per-50/705422.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Freloading-brass%2F_%2FN-1109590%2F&WT.mc_id=ir92929&WT.tsrc=AFF&rid=10

[stilly]

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=.308+brass+winchester