Reloading 9mm Luger

[ziconceo]

Hi all
Everyone gave this guy such a hard time am I scared to ask but here goes anyways. I have been reloading 115 gn x-treme RN copper plated with 4.0 grains of titegroup OAL of 1.10 with Remington 5.5 primers. I have loaded around 1000 rounds and they work fine in my PX4 a few jams once in a great while, I got my wife a Glock17 for X-mas and went to the range. she can not get them to cycle more than one round without jamming. so i tried them in my C9 (throw away) and they work fine. put them back in the Glock and same issue. I run some store bought 115 threw it not a problem. anyone got any ideals. the glock just will not cycle them. I was going to try loading some with 4.2 but I am not sure of the max so I am at a stand still.
Thank you

You probably need hotter loads.

[username111]

Here you go. Good info here, you stated you are loading plated, some of the load data being provided are for fmj. Browse the info here.

http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx

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[cdsdirect]

I was thinking that but none of my books show a receipt for my combination other than the 4.0 has anyone ran a heavier load of titegroup before and if so what were the results. anyone know what the max is on TG with a 115 RN.

[oddball]

One important piece of advice using Titegroup; visually double check your powder load before pressing in the bullet. A double shot of Titegroup easily fits into 9mm brass, and can be overlooked if distracted. I load 4.1 gr of TG with a 124 gr Montana Gold JHP on a Dillon 550B and I always take that extra glance.

[Gryff]

One important piece of advice using Titegroup; visually double check your powder load before pressing in the bullet. A double shot of Titegroup easily fits into 9mm brass, and can be overlooked if distracted.

I'm loading 2.8 grains with a 147gr. moly coated lead bullet. I could fit a quadruple charge in a 9mm case! So, yes, definitely be careful with TG.

So don't forget to sort your brass.

Why on earth would you sort 9mm brass?

[JTROKS]

Why on earth would you sort 9mm brass?

Sort the berdan primed brass out and also brass with crimped primers.

[J-cat]

Why on earth would you sort 9mm brass?

Because I care about accuracy, pressure, and overall quality of my reload.

[BigBronco]

124gr Xtreme over 6.2 gr of C1450 at 1.130 col.

[Gryff]

Sort the berdan primed brass out and also brass with crimped primers.

Got it. I thought you were talking about sorting by manufacturer.

Because I care about accuracy, pressure, and overall quality of my reload.

We are both talking about 9mm, right? Just seems like performance tuning a Honda Civic.

[TomReloaded]

Ive never seen a berdan primed case that wasnt steel, and a rifle caliber. I know they exist, but i wouldnt worry about it.

A big bag of random mixed brass loaded up right shoots better than factory stuff. No way im sorting pistol brass!

[J-cat]

We are both talking about 9mm, right? Just seems like performance tuning a Honda Civic.

Are you saying the 9 is not worthy of performance tuning? Are you some sort of caliberphobe? FYI, the 9 is more sensitive to small changes being it is a small capacity/high pressure round. Mixed brass is fine in the 45 ACP but it is unadulterated slobbery in the 9mm.

[Gryff]

Are you saying the 9 is not worthy of performance tuning?

Exactly.

Unless you are shooting Camp Perry, PPC, or Bianchi Cup (which you probably aren't if you are using 9mm), then sorting brass is like writing love poetry to a hooker thinking it will improve your chances of getting lucky. Of course you can squeak out better performance, but the effort isn't worth the gain for anything other than high-precision handgun competition.

[Gryff]

Are you some sort of caliberphobe?

Yes. I hate .380. But I love 9mm and it is my caliber of choice for range shooting and action pistol competitions. And I load about 6000-8000 9mm rounds per year.

[JTROKS]

Exactly.

Unless you are shooting Camp Perry, PPC, or Bianchi Cup (which you probably aren't if you are using 9mm), then sorting brass is like writing love poetry to a hooker thinking it will improve your chances of getting lucky. Of course you can squeak out better performance, but the effort isn't worth the gain for anything other than high-precision handgun competition.

Oh! Wait, what does the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit use?



A lot of Bianchi and PPC shooters use the 9mm because you can build a very soft shooting pistol that is accurate and reliable.

[J-cat]

Exactly.

Unless you are shooting Camp Perry, PPC, or Bianchi Cup (which you probably aren't if you are using 9mm), then sorting brass is like writing love poetry to a hooker thinking it will improve your chances of getting lucky. Of course you can squeak out better performance, but the effort isn't worth the gain for anything other than high-precision handgun competition.

It's worth it when you are trying to make soft shooting minimum PF ammo. It's worth it when you are obsessing about .010" of OAL variance. It's worth it if you are trying to shoot 1" groups at 15 yards. It's worth it if you are loading near max pressures. It's worth it in every which way.

I think it is pretty funny when people talk about working up loads, following the manuals, and carefully reading pressure signs when the mixed brass they're using creates a 10000 PSI pressure variance all by itself. But they keep stuffing that TiteGroup into that mixed brass and posting questions about flattened primers. Thank God the 9mm can take such abuse.