G-Smile Frustrations

[JTROKS]

I use LFCD for case prep only as in pushing brass through to completely resize it. It's frustrating when there's atleast 5% of my reloads not feeding in my 1911s because my carbide sizing die won't go any lower to iron that bulge out. I have the LFCD for removing the G-smile out of 45 and 40/10mm brass. What do you guys use in dealing with Glocked 9mm brass? Pitch in scrap bin to Recycle?

[joelogic]

Last time I looked into this I called Redding and they said 9mm actually has a slight taper and that is the reason they dont make a push through die. Best bet is to roll size or feed them back to your Glock.

Or buy a case gauge and save some frustration.

http://www.benstoegerproshop.com/100-Hole-9mm-Chamber-Checker-Cartridge-Case-Gauge-p/cg9-100.htm

[JTROKS]

Just got done uploading pics. I actually have my modified shell holder and non carbide 9mm resizing die. I grounded the tapered portion leaving just enough to allow ease of feeding the case. So far resized cases have been working 100%, even 9mm major cases are fully sized. Only problem with 9mm major cases are the enlarged primer pockets. I think the Case Pro is the only answer to that.

[3006mv]

http://leeprecision.com/case-conditioning-tools/lee-bulge-buster-kit/

More affordable than redding
Or get an aftermarket bbl with more support

[Corbin Dallas]

I use the erw under sizing die. It works great and I have yet to get a round that won't fit the case gauge.

[357magnum]

I have read several times that 9mm Glocks have a supported barrel, therefore no bulged brass.
I have seen plenty of bulged 9mm brass myself, so I use the LEE undersize 9mm carbide die, works for me.

[ar15barrels]

I use LFCD for case prep only as in pushing brass through to completely resize it. It's frustrating when there's atleast 5% of my reloads not feeding in my 1911s because my carbide sizing die won't go any lower to iron that bulge out. I have the LFCD for removing the G-smile out of 45 and 40/10mm brass. What do you guys use in dealing with Glocked 9mm brass? Pitch in scrap bin to Recycle?

This is some kinky stuff I think because I don't know what all those abbreviations and cutsey names even mean.
Pehaps you might try typing in coherent sentences if you need some help.

[TexasJackKin]

This is some kinky stuff I think because I don't know what all those abbreviations and cutsey names even mean.
Pehaps you might try typing in coherent sentences if you need some help.

LFCD= Lee Factory crimp die, people use it as a push though die to remove the G-smile.

G-smile= Glock bulge, some older Glock barrels have a portion of the chamber cut away to aid reliable feeding. this is exasperated with hot loads when people try to make major power factor with 9MM guns for certain types of competition.

[Carcassonne]

LFCD= Lee Factory crimp die, people use it as a push though die to remove the G-smile.

G-smile= Glock bulge, some older Glock barrels have a portion of the chamber cut away to aid reliable feeding. this is exasperated with hot loads when people try to make major power factor with 9MM guns for certain types of competition.

I had a Gen-1 Glock 17 (stolen) and I currently have a Gen-2 Glock 17. I have never had a problem with brass bulge with any 9mm load that was within SAMMI pressure specifications (35,000psi); even with +P (38,500 psi). I know people sometimes go upwards of 50,000 psi to hit major.

My personal opinion is that if you plan to shoot any pistol caliber that is significantly over maximum SAMMI pressure you should use 1x fired brass. Once the brass has bulged (got the Glock smile) it has gone past its yield point. Once the brass has gone past its yield point it will never be as strong as it was originally.

If someone regularly shoots 45,000 psi 9mm loads, they might want to buy some Starline 9x23 Comp brass and trim it down to 9x19. 9x23 brass is thicker around the base (and has less volume which means less powder, which means less velocity, which means you need more powder, and more pressure to get where you want to be).



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[JTROKS]

It seems the most economical solution is Lee Small Base Die combined with a modified shell holder in which I've done already. I'm not loading 9mm major for my single stack 1911s, just loading up for reliable accurate loads.

[TexasJackKin]

I had a Gen-1 Glock 17 (stolen) and I currently have a Gen-2 Glock 17. I have never had a problem with brass bulge with any 9mm load that was within SAMMI pressure specifications (35,000psi); even with +P (38,500 psi). I know people sometimes go upwards of 50,000 psi to hit major.

My personal opinion is that if you plan to shoot any pistol caliber that is significantly over maximum SAMMI pressure you should use 1x fired brass. Once the brass has bulged (got the Glock smile) it has gone past its yield point. Once the brass has gone past its yield point it will never be as strong as it was originally.

If someone regularly shoots 45,000 psi 9mm loads, they might want to buy some Starline 9x23 Comp brass and trim it down to 9x19. 9x23 brass is thicker around the base (and has less volume which means less powder, which means less velocity, which means you need more powder, and more pressure to get where you want to be).



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I agree, I shoot major, but I use my .40 cal Glock. I *think* the newer Glocks (3rd gen) have better supported chambers, and I've never bulged a case, but then I don't push it, I'm more interested in fast follow up shots.

[Cheep]

Any brass that I see the Glock bulge on, I throw it in the scrap bin. It's not worth worrying about.

[lpspinner]

http://leeprecision.com/case-conditi...ge-buster-kit/
More affordable than redding
Or get an aftermarket bbl with more support

The bulge buster kit is not available for 9mm. As Joe mentioned, they have a tapered body.

I recommend going with the EGW Undersized Reloading Die. This along with the shell holder that's been grinded down will take care of that G-smile.

[noylj]

I use a Lee 9mm Mak FCD for my 9x19 and 9x21 brass. Some folks say the simply use a 9x19 FCD. All the 9mm Mak can contact is the very last ⅜" of so of the case.

[deac777]

I use a Lee 9mm Mak FCD for my 9x19 and 9x21 brass. Some folks say the simply use a 9x19 FCD. All the 9mm Mak can contact is the very last ⅜" of so of the case.

I use the same FCD, Lee 9mm Mak FCD with the bulge buster kit. This setup works great.