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  • SNEAKS
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1449

    44mag case length issue

    I have some once fired brass by me and after resizing and knocking the primer out I measured the case lengths. They were short, anywhere from 1.260 - 1.270. Are these still safe to reload?
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    John Browning
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2006
    • 8089

    Totally safe.
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    • #3
      David-K
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 745

      Yep, you're good. Just be mindful of OAL with magnum sized loads and you'll be problem free. Remember, .44SPL can be shot out of a .44MAG and while your cases are far from being that short, the idea is the same.
      "Well, looky here. If it ain't the fuzz".

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        SNEAKS
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1449

        Is it safe to do a full charge (Win 296 23gr) for my Desert Eagle?

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          bohoki
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          • Jan 2006
          • 20825

          headspaces on the rim its very forgiving

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            • #7
              stilly
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              • Jul 2009
              • 10685

              Originally posted by SNEAKS
              Is it safe to do a full charge (Win 296 23gr) for my Desert Eagle?
              That is cute that you think 23gr is a full charge for your Deagle

              Wait till it grows up...

              Pay attention to your brass too. Hornady brass will vary for 44 MAG because SOMETIMES 44mag Hornady is trimmed down for their FTX line or LEVEREVOLUTION line. It is still 44 mag, but it is trimmed down to fit the little nubbin.

              Just make sure that for the Deagle your OAL ends up being around 1.600 and you should be okay.
              Last edited by stilly; 12-13-2014, 2:24 PM.
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                Pablo5959
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1288

                Originally posted by stilly
                That is cute that you think 23gr is a full charge for your Deagle

                Wait till it grows up...

                Pay attention to your brass too. Hornady brass will vary for 44 MAG because SOMETIMES 44mag Hornady is trimmed down for their FTX line or LEVEREVOLUTION line. It is still 44 mag, but it is trimmed down to fit the little nubbin.

                Just make sure that for the Deagle your OAL ends up being around 1.600 and you should be okay.
                This nubbin? Is why my Hornady .357 free brass is short also?

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                • #9
                  stilly
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                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10685

                  Originally posted by Pablo5959
                  This nubbin? Is why my Hornady .357 free brass is short also?
                  Maybe they just got lazy.

                  I do recall reading about reloading hornady, if you are going to load up any hornady FTX pills with the lil red nubbin on the tip then be sure to trim the brass down like .020 or something to accommodate that nubbin.

                  Maybe they do that to all of their brass now.
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                  Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



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                  • #10
                    357magnum
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 1219

                    I have some new Starline .44 mag brass that is about .005 shorter than other brands such as Winchester or Remington.
                    They all load and shoot just fine.
                    Less time prepping brass, no trimming needed.
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                    • #11
                      stilly
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                      • Jul 2009
                      • 10685

                      YEah the biggest thing to remember is that when you base your crimp, try to find a happy medium round OR crimp in different batches. If you crimp the shortest shell, then all of the longer ones will get rippled and if you crimp your longed shell, then all of your shortest ones will not see any crimp, so find the medium and crimp IT and then let it go...
                      7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                      Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                      And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                      • #12
                        jg7
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 53

                        yeah, I noticed this as well on some 44 mag Hornady brass, after sizing they were 1.260 +/- 0.002". On the bright side, I guess that way you don't have to worry about extra trimming if you use the FTX bullets.

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                        • #13
                          Cowboy T
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                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5725

                          Originally posted by Pablo5959
                          This nubbin? Is why my Hornady .357 free brass is short also?
                          Yep, and it's not just the .357M and .44M, but also .45 Colt. Note that this only applies to LEVERevolution ammo with those FTX bullets, so if it's got a Hornady headstamp, you've got to check its length. Other Hornady ammo uses standard-length cases.

                          This is why I really like using Special dies (e. g. .38 Spl, .44 Spl) for the corresponding Magnum cartridges because you can account for this shorter length. That shorter brass itself works just as well as any other brass if you do this. Just a matter of segregating the shorties out and doing those in a separate run.
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