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  • #31
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57136

    Originally posted by JMP
    Out of curiosity, why do you recommend the 2-piece Redding? Is that just for budget mindedness as I find the 3-piece comp set with the neck micrometer and seating micrometer well-worth it, as it makes the neck sizing and decapping very easy for a bolt rifle.
    I find that full length sizing with minimal shoulder setback is just as accurate and more reliable than neck sizing so I can't justify the added cost of the 3rd die nor do I want to deal with HAVING to size the case body and the neck separately.

    The set I specified sizes the body and the neck in one die.
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    • #32
      JMP
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Feb 2012
      • 17056

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      I find that full length sizing with minimal shoulder setback is just as accurate and more reliable than neck sizing so I can't justify the added cost of the 3rd die nor do I want to deal with HAVING to size the case body and the neck separately.

      The set I specified sizes the body and the neck in one die.
      I agree with your assessment that you will not have a loss in precision with the 2-die set. Personally, I have gravitated to the comp sets with a neck only for ease, as the neck only can give very good results with really no case prep as no lube is needed with the gold bushings, and they stay clean for easy swap. For some cartridges, I use different brands of brass to differentiate the load. This makes for quick and dirty loading. Plus, for SOME cartridges of the same diameter and close length, you can use the same neck only, which can be of benefit to oddball cartridges where type-S is not available. Despite the additional cost, I like them in particular for beginners as the die is pretty much bullet proof as it's impossible to get a stuck case or to over-lubricate and get dents.

      With the .223, I separate the neck and body as I have found that with a dry tumble, they'll size through a dillon with no lube at all, so it is good for lazy folks.

      My logic is probably is somewhat counter-intuitive as I think that one of the most expensive sets is best for beginners. I do find the Redding decapping system and a good micrometer seater a must in either case. The cheap seating dies are a tragedy if you use different bullets or want concentric ammo.

      JMO

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      • #33
        stilly
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2009
        • 10685

        Originally posted by klewan
        Yeah you would. I had 3 124 Spiders, only weird failure was the fuel pump cam developed a flat spot so it knocked. Took a while to find that one.
        Well since you put it THAT way...
        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

        Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



        And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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