Wrong Bushing in Resize Die???

[HoosierD]

Received a new set of 9mm Luger dies and loaded in my press today (an LNL AP). I'm not going to state the die brand so there is no bashing from me. I'm relatively new to reloading and this is my first run at 9mm (I've been loading 223).

So, shell on shell plate, advance, case is stuck when 3-5 mm into the resize die. Cases wet tumbled. Lubed with Dillon case lube. I double lubed. I triple lubed. Yes, they were dry before touching the press. Cleaned the hell out of the die. Lubed the die. Tried OneShot. All the same. The non-sized

[J-cat]

You have the wrong sizer ring in there.

[ducky_0811]

I'm going assume that this is your first attempt at pistol reloading. Now I may be wrong bc I don't reload 9mm, only .40. But the resizing die is supposed to size smaller than bullet diameter, your case expander die will open it back up to accept a new bullet, much like the expander ball on your .223 dies.
As for your cases getting stuck.... can't help you there, I would suggest carbide sizer, don't have to worry about lube. Rcbs sells them for like 40 bucks for a 3 die set, well worth it

[stilly]

Received a new set of 9mm Luger dies and loaded in my press today (an LNL AP). I'm not going to state the die brand so there is no bashing from me. I'm relatively new to reloading and this is my first run at 9mm (I've been loading 223).

So, shell on shell plate, advance, case is stuck when 3-5 mm into the resize die. Cases wet tumbled. Lubed with Dillon case lube. I double lubed. I triple lubed. Yes, they were dry before touching the press. Cleaned the hell out of the die. Lubed the die. Tried OneShot. All the same. The non-sized

As this story unfolds, I hope it does not come out that you learned your reloading techniques from you-tube and elsewhere online and that this is your first press...

Don't worry about brand bashing. That is for later. What brand of dies were these and where did you get them from? What KIND of dies also, OH and what is the exact caliber of them? Do they say 9mm Luger? What brand again? Don;t ever be afraid that you are brand bashing here because we like to know what brands end users report the problems with, it could be that you are part of a BAD lot or batch and now 42 others have returned their dies in for replacements, but you are stuck here wondering what happened and all because you are too PC to name the brand. Makes no sense. So you either want help or you are trolling then...

This takes me to my next question, LUBE? Really? So then you have a set of steel dies? Most folks and by most I mean just about everyone, and by that I mean the vast majority of them in here do NOT lube while resizing with carbide pistol dies. There is no need to, but the few that do report that it makes thigns smooth as butter. AND although butter and bacon are two B words that I like to have around MY press, I can not bring myself to lube my cases when I am using carbide. BUT, It would SURE be nice to know what brand of dies these were so that we could look up any recalls or major/known bugs and workarounds...

And finally, did you put the 9mm LUGER resizer on your single stage press and try a shell or two in that? What are the results? It could be that press that you are using. Maybe it is voodoo woodoo bad doodoo...

[sofbak]

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All that over a defective die?

OP, you got a bad die- mis-assembled at the factory with the wrong ring. Stuff happens.

Contact the retailer or the manufacturer Monday.......

[CSACANNONEER]

[HoosierD]

It's a bad die. Confirmed by other means. Thanks all.

Die is stamped 9MM Luger and so is the box. Other dies in the set are flawless. I'm never putting "new to reloading" in a post again. One year of 223 and part of a reloaders club and reloading 9mm at the club should have negated the "new" a while ago.

[CSACANNONEER]

It's a bad die. Confirmed by other means. Thanks all.

Die is stamped 9MM Luger and so is the box. Other dies in the set are flawless. I'm never putting "new to reloading" in a post again. One year of 223 and part of a reloaders club and reloading 9mm at the club should have negated the "new" a while ago.

Then contact the seller or the manufacturer. I know I once bought a used set of Dillion .45LC dies and it came with a .45acp sizing die. The seller informed me that he was told they were the same thing. After I insisted that they were not the same and he should cll Dillon to verify, he ended up buying a brand new one from Dillon and sending it to me.

[stilly]

It's a bad die. Confirmed by other means. Thanks all.

Die is stamped 9MM Luger and so is the box. Other dies in the set are flawless. I'm never putting "new to reloading" in a post again. One year of 223 and part of a reloaders club and reloading 9mm at the club should have negated the "new" a while ago.

It is no shame to be NEW to reloading (although you are not really new and since you started with .223 and are in a club I would not say you are new, just unexperienced in an area or two, small areas though and we all gotta troubleshoot), I was once NEW to reloading, then I reloaded 50 9mm rounds and I was promoted to Captain and then when I switched to 44 mag and started pumping out (OMG this coffee I am drinking tastes like Lucky Charms! Holy ****!) rounds for my Deagle I was promoted to General and finally when I started coming here and reading and getting involved more, I got promoted to Major Dick...

But we all like to have fun SO WHAT DIE SET IS THIS? I AM DIEING (get it?) TO KNOW! TELL ME! You are ONLY delaying the INEVITABLE! I will have mah people put a tail on you to see what store you go to and what dies get returned and I will have the others hack the NSA files and look up your internet orders! please don't make all of those people get into trouble. Just tell us...

I will give you lots of candy if you tell us...


OH wait a sec. I know what die set it is, YOU are refusing to reveal because they are BLUE DIES! And if that info got out, then Brian Enos himself would hunt you down and confiscate all of your stuff and leave you shackeled in pink fuzzy handcuffs. That MUST be it!

Please tell us. Inquiring minds like mine wanna know...

[CGT80]

Pistol brass should be pretty easy to resize. Hornady one shot makes everything nice and slick. It is less work on my hand and arm when pumping the BLUE progressive presses. It makes single stage work a little nicer as well. I have many die sets, so I lube and don't worry if they are carbide or not. I don't really need carbide for anything since I lube. The hornady lube can be left on the brass and the ammo shot with the lube in place.

Dillon lube is my choice for rifle brass. It is sticky, so I do tumble after sizing. Hornady one shot did not work well for my rifle brass. Sometimes it worked, but when it didn't, it really sucked.

9mm brass will get sized down a bit and once loaded with bullets, it may end up with a funky shape. Just test it in the case gauge or the barrel to make sure it will fit easily and drop back out when you tip the gauge or barrel upside down.

[HoosierD]

I read too many die debates to have this influence the blue, red, green, or Lee lovers/haters. It was a rare error in manufacturing that I thought could or would never happen. Whoever I state would turn this into some bash or be conceived as a bash by me. My own pride and the fact I know the issue will be resolved leaves there no reason. The manufacturer is mainstream, high quality and stands behind their product 100% so it is a moot point. No finger pointing from this side. Nope. Not gonna do it.


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[David-K]

So I suppose when something works perfectly, you're not going to mention the name of that product either? Regardless, glad you got it sorted. Can get pretty frustrating chasing a problem that rarely, if ever, occurs.

[stilly]

I read too many die debates to have this influence the blue, red, green, or Lee lovers/haters. It was a rare error in manufacturing that I thought could or would never happen. Whoever I state would turn this into some bash or be conceived as a bash by me. My own pride and the fact I know the issue will be resolved leaves there no reason. The manufacturer is mainstream, high quality and stands behind their product 100% so it is a moot point. No finger pointing from this side. Nope. Not gonna do it.


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I only wanna know because you sadi you would not tell.

Bro I got CANDY I will give to you. You don't even have to get into the van, I will come out and give it to you. FOR FREE, just give us a name...

I said CANDY! NOM NOM! Come on, YOU CAN HAS CANDY!


Okay fine be that way, I don't wanna know anyways and NONE of us wanna know because we already know. Yeah, too late, no candy for you now. Even if you told us we know you would be lieing just to get candy. Game over man.

No candy for you and now RCBS has a black eye over it...

[CSACANNONEER]

I'll let you play with my puppies if you tell us. I'm not a die snob. I own Lee, Pacific, Hornady, Lyman, CH4D, Dillion, Redding, RCBS, Eagle, Hollywood, M2 Precision and probably a couple more brands that I've forgotten about right now.

[HoosierD]

Mommy told me not to take candy from strangers. Puppies? I love puppies. Are they in the van?

Ok. I have no bad words as can be seen above, didn't want to be seen as a troll, and I have no intention of saying anything bad about a manufacturer, and I would give credit for a good product. I just hate the press and die "wars" and didn't want my question going that direction. It is a Hornady New Dimension Part #046516.