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  • Na-vah-duh
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 382

    Loading for Henry .45 Colt

    Just picked up a new Henry .45 colt and loaded xtreme's 255 with 23.5 gr of H110 velocity was 1541-1580 fps. Recoil was moderate. Does anyone have other data a little less mild? Using 2400 or maybe Unique etc? or a plinking round they'd recommend?

    Thanks
  • #2
    JagerDog
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    • May 2011
    • 15117

    My standard pressure"plinking" loads use Blue Dot (partly cuz I have a bunch of it). IIRC it was ~12.6gr with a Bear Creek 255 RNFP. Verify on Alliant's site.

    Less mild? That's a full bore lever gun load you have right now IIRC.

    Recoil is always going to be mild to moderate when using pistol cartridges in a rifle.

    Edit:

    Checked my data. 12.6 BD w/255 cat was getting 1200 fps.

    21.5gr H110 w/300gr jacketed Speer was 1400 fps. 22gr gave 1440.

    this is a Marlin w/ 16" barrel.

    A host of powders will work well. The slower will tend to make the most advantge of the longer barrel. Not ure a lots to be gained slower than say Unique though. I have a Unique load I like in the 45 Auto Camp Carbine.
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    • #3
      Eljay
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      • Oct 2005
      • 4985

      Yeah, it's a big case so you would think you could really pack a big load in there, but it was originally a black powder cartridge and the spec is for pretty low pressure by modern standards.

      Personally I load 45 Colt only for a conversion cylinder setup so I keep it to traditional black powder loads or roughly the same power but with trail boss. You're running twice as fast (so four times the energy) as it is.

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      • #4
        manny
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 542

        you can also use about 8-10 grains of universal clays for a great plinking round with any 250 grain lead bullet.
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        • #5
          MongooseV8
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          • Apr 2010
          • 4426

          Thats way too fast for a plated bullet. You should really be using jackets for H110.

          9.0 grains of Unique is a great accurate light load. Still plenty of power to whack a steel plate over.

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          • #6
            Eljay
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4985

            That's a good point about the plating - he's in a grey area where he's exceeding their (conservative) recommendations for speed but a lot of people have luck. I push their flat nosed lever action .308 bullets to about 1600fps and others report problems at more like 1700. But if he goes faster it's more and more likely that he'll see problems.

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              Dark Mod
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              • Feb 2011
              • 4284

              Originally posted by Eljay
              That's a good point about the plating - he's in a grey area where he's exceeding their (conservative) recommendations for speed but a lot of people have luck. I push their flat nosed lever action .308 bullets to about 1600fps and others report problems at more like 1700. But if he goes faster it's more and more likely that he'll see problems.
              Yeah the .30-30 plated bullets have a heavier plate from what I understand, you can also buy some plated bullets with the HPCB (Heavy Plate, Concave Base) prefix and those are supposed to be good for over 1500 fps.

              With regular plated bullets I get to about 1350 - 1400 fps and stop there. Even then I sometimes have separation problems with .357, either because its reached the upper limit of its velocity or because of the crimp, not really sure which.

              Im surprised your getting that much velocity out of .45 colt, that's really impressive and I would be very happy with those results provided they are marginally accurate.

              If you want to experiment and see what you can get out of the .45 colt cartridge, it may be time to buy jacketed or hardcast bullets. I just bought a Marlin .44 that ill pick up on Monday and plan on having a ladder test of hardcast projectiles ready to go.
              Last edited by Dark Mod; 08-20-2014, 2:27 PM.

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              • #8
                cruddymutt
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1589

                My 45 Colt load, which I shoot out of my Henry Big Boy FYI, is

                9gr Unique
                200gr LRN from Missouri Bullet Co
                Starline Brass

                I don't have a chrony but its a decent little reduced load.
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                • #9
                  Na-vah-duh
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 382

                  Originally posted by cruddymutt
                  My 45 Colt load, which I shoot out of my Henry Big Boy FYI, is

                  9gr Unique
                  200gr LRN from Missouri Bullet Co
                  Starline Brass

                  I don't have a chrony but its a decent little reduced load.
                  Thanks I will give these a try.

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                  • #10
                    at_liberty
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 699

                    Originally posted by Na-vah-duh
                    Just picked up a new Henry .45 colt and loaded xtreme's 255 with 23.5 gr of H110 velocity was 1541-1580 fps. Recoil was moderate. Does anyone have other data a little less mild? Using 2400 or maybe Unique etc? or a plinking round they'd recommend?

                    Thanks
                    I would suggest reading the AMMO section of your owner's manual. My Henry 45 Colt will never see ammo that hot. None of my loading books show rated velocities close to your number by 100s of fps.

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                    • #11
                      Na-vah-duh
                      Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 382

                      Originally posted by at_liberty
                      I would suggest reading the AMMO section of your owner's manual. My Henry 45 Colt will never see ammo that hot. None of my loading books show rated velocities close to your number by 100s of fps.
                      You mustn't forget I'm shooting out of a 20" barrel, Velocities you are looking at are from shorter contender barrels. I specifically called henry and they stated the henry is capable of handling such loads and mentioned buffalo bore ammo which is just "hot" and I can feed said henry a steady diet with no problems.

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                      • #12
                        at_liberty
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 699

                        Originally posted by Na-vah-duh
                        You mustn't forget I'm shooting out of a 20" barrel, Velocities you are looking at are from shorter contender barrels. I specifically called henry and they stated the henry is capable of handling such loads and mentioned buffalo bore ammo which is just "hot" and I can feed said henry a steady diet with no problems.
                        I will have to remain skeptical, because both my Hornady and Speer books have rifle sections for 45 Colt, the Speer using a 16" Winchester Model 95 Trapper, and Hornady using a 20" Rossi 92 SRC. The velocities, as I said, are not close to yours by hundreds of FPS, even in lighter, jacketed bullets.

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                        • #13
                          JagerDog
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                          • May 2011
                          • 15117

                          Originally posted by at_liberty
                          I will have to remain skeptical, because both my Hornady and Speer books have rifle sections for 45 Colt, the Speer using a 16" Winchester Model 95 Trapper, and Hornady using a 20" Rossi 92 SRC. The velocities, as I said, are not close to yours by hundreds of FPS, even in lighter, jacketed bullets.
                          If the rifle is rated for the "Ruger" loadings, those velocities are indeed reachable.
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                          • #14
                            Tom-ADC
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                            • Apr 2010
                            • 3614

                            If I had one of those, cast bullets & Trail Boss powder, lots of fun, accurate out of my Ruger and saves wear and tear on a fine rifle.
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                            • #15
                              MongooseV8
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 4426

                              The 45 Colt can be safely loaded to crazy velocity even with heavy bullets. Just make sure you shoot the correct loads in the correct firearms.

                              45LC> 44Mag.

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