TiteGroup

[Raynman]

I managed to purchase 2 lbs of Titegroup for 9mm loads. Can I assume that it is in general, a dirty powder compared to W231? Currently , I am using 4grs behind a plated 124 Xtreme bullet. Maybe its just my imagination about it being dirty. It has been a long time since I have loaded W231!
I know that we are all loading whatever we can get in the way of pistol powder.

[ptmn]

Titegroup is supposed to be one of the cleanest burning powders...but in my experience it is no cleaner or dirtier than 231. I use a similar load with the 9mm 124 gr plated of 4.1gr, Win SP Primer, seated to 1.135"

[rdfact]

I have used Titegroup in .40 and .45 but not 9mm. It has been fairly clean burning.

[Swagman00]

It's pretty clean due to the low powder requirements. Case fill will be less then expected.

More then anything the smell might surprise you when shooting it. It stinks pretty strong, but otherwise works great.

[BajaJames83]

its pretty clean but I have noticed that it burns significantly hotter (temperature wise) when compared to most other pistol powders I normally use.

[blockfort]

I don't like how low volume titegroup is in 9mm, harder to see double charges compared to more filling powders.

[Paperchasin]

I don't like how low volume titegroup is in 9mm, harder to see double charges compared to more filling powders.

Excellent point. I was just gonna say that my load recipes using titegroup and w231 are almost the same

[Pauliedad]

As for clean vs dirty powder, I clean my barrels/actions frequently enough that it doesn't really matter. I will say though that I notice if a powder is dirty because the slide (or barrel on a revolver) gets grey right away.

[J-cat]

Titegroup is supposed to be one of the cleanest burning powders...

Bwahahahah!

[J-cat]

As for clean vs dirty powder, I clean my barrels/actions frequently enough that it doesn't really matter. I will say though that I notice if a powder is dirty because the slide (or barrel on a revolver) gets grey right away.

It would take thousands of rounds if dirty to induce a malfunction.

[sghart]

Unless your gun binds up after 50 rounds, and will no longer function, the whole "clean" "dirty" powder claims are just silly.

This.

[1idcat]

I've noticed that many powders are dirty (or sooty) when loaded near the start loads, but burn much cleaner as your loads approach max.

If you have some room to safely increase your load, try that and see if it cleans up some.

[ZRen]

I've noticed that many powders are dirty (or sooty) when loaded near the start loads, but burn much cleaner as your loads approach max.

If you have some room to safely increase your load, try that and see if it cleans up some.

+1

What I read and it makes sense to me is that the starting loads don't expand the brass fully to the walls of the chamber and this allows a slight bit of the gases to seep back around the brass and blacken part of it.

I get lots of blackened cases when using low power Titegroup loads.
As for it being "dirty", I've never had a problem.
I've never had a jam in my glock 19 or hk USPc 45, so "dirty powder" is never a concern for me.

[repomanNWP]

Well, I find Titegroup pretty clean; it burns FAST and HOT. It doesn't work so well with Moly coated bullets (that gets dirty because it melts the moly something fierce). You have to be extra careful using it for reasons already stated. I find it much cleaner than Bullseye, and W231. YMMV. It's my preferred powder for .40cal

[Leethe4th]

Well, I find Titegroup pretty clean; it burns FAST and HOT. It doesn't work so well with Moly coated bullets (that gets dirty because it melts the moly something fierce). You have to be extra careful using it for reasons already stated. I find it much cleaner than Bullseye, and W231. YMMV. It's my preferred powder for .40cal

4.0 grains of TiteGroup behind 125 TC Bear Creeks after about 200 rounds. Yea, it's very dirty and smoky and leads the heck outa the barrel.