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  • #16
    krwada
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2013
    • 1457

    Originally posted by Spyguy
    If those plans are for a wood powder storage locker, then it's for protecting factory containers of powder (1 lb bottles and 8 lbs jugs). It's not for "bulk storage" by dumping all your powder into a garbage bag.
    I am quite certain you are correct.

    I do not advocate "dumping" powder in a garbage bag.

    However ... that 15 kilo bag full of shotgun/pistol powder ... from the Yugoslavian company, (Nitrokemie) ... sold by Grafs. It does look kinda like a garbage bag!

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    • #17
      stilly
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2009
      • 10685

      Originally posted by Mike402
      So with the powder shortage, like everyone else I've been forced to buy whats available here and there. This has led to having multiple lots of each type of powder.

      I've read that some powders are better than others w/ regards to lot to lot consistency, but I'm really not crazy about the idea of having to retest loads each time I use a new lot. I came across a post where someone mixes different lots together from the same type/brand of powder to create one 'custom' lot, and not worry about variations.

      I thought this was a simple yet brilliant idea. Anyone else doing this? Any safety concerns beyond the obvious 'make sure its the same powder'? More importantly, what type of container are you using? I'd like to blend maybe 10-12lbs at a time (Varget for instance) and was curious if you can use regular plastic containers. Are the factory containers specially coated in any way to inhibit powder breakdown and/or contamination?

      To answer the obvious question, yes I'd use empty 8lb jugs if I could find them, but I'd still like a little more capacity.
      Dare I say this is snakeoil and foo-fooness?

      Lot to Lot deviances blowing **** up when not tested- BAH PISHAW!

      More stuff to control us... OH wait, must be from hodgdon...
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      • #18
        Witch Hunter
        Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 174

        Keep powder in factory containers. I buy 8 pounders and I can add a pound to it if all I can find is one pounders. That way I never worry about lot to lot differences. I keep only one pounders on the shelf to use, so I fill them from the big jugs. Only keep one out on your bench at once, that keeps you from wondering what is in the powder measure.

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        • #19
          Mike402
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 555

          Originally posted by stilly
          BAH PISHAW!
          Can somebody translate this for me?

          So I called Hodgon yesterday, unsurprisingly they said not to mix lots & keep powder in the factory containers. I guess I'll be testing their lot to lot quality controls...

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          • #20
            Paperchasin
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2010
            • 6407

            Keep things simple... Leave them the way they are. Why over complicate these things?
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            • #21
              mark501w
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1699

              It's really not that much trouble to work up a load for the next lot. You have an idea where it's going to go.

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              • #22
                Loiterer
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 58

                For general plinking/practice and working from manuals that are new on the shelf and not todays date, if there was that much difference in the powder lot then the powder should have been given another name.

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                • #23
                  stilly
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10685

                  Originally posted by Mike402
                  Can somebody translate this for me?

                  So I called Hodgon yesterday, unsurprisingly they said not to mix lots & keep powder in the factory containers. I guess I'll be testing their lot to lot quality controls...
                  Of course they did. They also said that Leverevolution powder was the same stuff they use in their factory ammo... Now we know THAT aint the case so they have no credability anymore. (at least with me)

                  In all honesty though, although it is a nice idea to be able to do what you are talking about, it might be safer and easier to just leave things in the bottles they come in. MAYBE flip back and forth between 4lb/8lb/1lb bottles, but I wold not transfer anything over to different containers. You are just asking for trouble. (maybe)

                  Tell me sir: Are you also a perfectionist? Ahh yes, it all makes sense now.
                  7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                  Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                  And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                  • #24
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44093

                    Originally posted by stilly
                    Dare I say this is snakeoil and foo-fooness?

                    Lot to Lot deviances blowing **** up when not tested- BAH PISHAW!

                    More stuff to control us... OH wait, must be from hodgdon...
                    Stilly, I've gotta let you know that Vihtavuori is know for inconsistency between lots. I know a few people who have come close to major problems by not working up new loads for new lots of 20N29. This is well know among competitive 50 shooters. It's also not a bad thing to do with surplus reclaimed powders which are not canister grade powdrs to begin with.
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                    • #25
                      Spyguy
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 7378

                      Here's a question for you: what do you do if you mix, say, ten 1 lb containers of powder from different lots together, and then the manufacturer issues a recall on one of those lots?
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                      • #26
                        stilly
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10685

                        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                        Stilly, I've gotta let you know that Vihtavuori is know for inconsistency between lots. I know a few people who have come close to major problems by not working up new loads for new lots of 20N29. This is well know among competitive 50 shooters. It's also not a bad thing to do with surplus reclaimed powders which are not canister grade powdrs to begin with.
                        Well I do not shoot snobish ****E swede powder... I have a bottle, but I do not shoot it.

                        Heh, if you have to work up a load each BOTTLE then it kinda takes the fun out of reloading... I prefer to just dump in a bottle and GO.

                        Also, that means that the load data is ****E as well for that load (in my book). Which puts reloading in general back to more of an art then a science...

                        AND there is also what Spyguy said too. What happens when you get a recall on a particular lot?

                        GAME OVER MAN- Unless they will refund you your entire batch of contaminated powder, then who cares. you are just SOL until it comes in.
                        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                        Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                        And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                        • #27
                          Mike402
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 555

                          Originally posted by stilly
                          Tell me sir: Are you also a perfectionist?
                          Guilty as charged

                          Originally posted by Spyguy
                          Here's a question for you: what do you do if you mix, say, ten 1 lb containers of powder from different lots together, and then the manufacturer issues a recall on one of those lots?
                          Well I guess I'd be out $300 in powder then.

                          Doing some research on this, it seems like this is fairly common in the benchrest community (this for example: http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?...he-same-powder

                          It seems like the biggest issue is properly and thoroughly mixing it. I'm gonna forego it for now, since i have at least 3lbs of each lot, which equates to roughly 500 rounds for my .308 loads. With my magnetospeed, I can easily check the MV of a new lot to see if there are major differences & adjust from there. Thanks for the replies...

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