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  • #16
    bohoki
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 20825

    Originally posted by Bobula
    You have priced reloading set up lately have you?
    Please prove me wrong, lol.
    you can do it with lee

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    • #17
      diginit
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 3250

      Originally posted by Bobula
      Vendor said, "All ammo sales are final"
      Emailed federal, awaiting a response.
      He wouldn't even let you exchange it for another box?
      I'd at least give him a bad review on an I-net site. Where did you buy it?
      The dings will straighten out when fired, But that stuff looks pretty kruddy.

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      • #18
        halifax
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 4440

        Originally posted by diginit
        He wouldn't even let you exchange it for another box?
        I'd at least give him a bad review on an I-net site. Where did you buy it?
        The dings will straighten out when fired, But that stuff looks pretty kruddy.
        It's pretty standard practice to not exchange ammo. It's a safety issue. Giving the vendor a bad review for following industry safety practices is not the thing to do.
        Jim


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        • #19
          Bobula
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2007
          • 9385

          Originally posted by halifax
          It's pretty standard practice to not exchange ammo. It's a safety issue. Giving the vendor a bad review for following industry safety practices is not the thing to do.
          I would agree. He did offer to order me another brand at a slight discount. What more can ya ask for. If I dont hear back from federal by tuesday I'll call the,.
          Originally posted by Kestryll
          Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

          Fascist pig....

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          • #20
            diginit
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 3250

            At least he offered you some compensation... but I don't understand why he wouldn't exchange it and send it back to the factory himself with his next order. I've returned ammo for a complete refund a few times before. I guess Mel Cottons Sporting Goods and Wallmart have different policies.

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            • #21
              22popnsplat
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 1042

              As in my orignal post , He needs to contact Federal . I dont think a email is going to get you anywere , you need to talk to there customer service and work your way through until you get to somebody thats allowed to say yes . I have never delt with them so I dont know how difficult that may turn out to be .
              It is common to have a no refund/exchange on ammo . to easy to swap in something else that could be very dangerous

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              • #22
                dgey
                Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 431

                as for functionality, there won't be any problem. as for aesthics, complain and they'll probably compensate you in some fashion...
                Doug

                The whole of that Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals...[I]t establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of.
                --- Oct 7, 1789, Hist. Soc.-A.G. Papers, 2

                support your local gun dealer in CA as they are a rare breed and subject to nonexistence...

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                • #23
                  Bobula
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2007
                  • 9385

                  After about 20 minutes on the phone with Federal I was pretty much told if I didn't like the product they produce I had other options....

                  I then realized aside from wwb and cci stinger all the ammo I buy is Federal. Looks like they'll be losing a customer.
                  Originally posted by Kestryll
                  Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

                  Fascist pig....

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                  • #24
                    22popnsplat
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 1042

                    WOW , Now thats some customer service that is note worthy !! You should think about starting to reload ? I have been for 30+ years , It is a hobby all by itself .

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                    • #25
                      m98
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 4088

                      #1. Ask to open and examine every round of ammo you're going to buy from a vendor

                      Or #2. Just learn to Roll your own ammo-It's easy and well worth the savings$$ and efforts..very rewarding to see the fruits of your labor.
                      "Screw U guys, I'm going home"...:the great Eric Cartman

                      10mm. Because .45ACP just doesn't cut it anymore. <Trailerparktrash>

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                      • #26
                        Sunwolf
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 7445

                        The fine art of complaint

                        Originally posted by Bobula
                        After about 20 minutes on the phone with Federal I was pretty much told if I didn't like the product they produce I had other options....

                        I then realized aside from wwb and cci stinger all the ammo I buy is Federal. Looks like they'll be losing a customer.
                        Always complain by snail mail and complain to the highest ranking person you can find in the organization.You will get satisfaction 90% of the time.

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                        • #27
                          rayra
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1747

                          I'm under the impression that all commerical retail ammo sales are final / nonreturnable. And if the walmart forlks are allowing returns or exchanges, it's a failure in their training.

                          I'll have to see if I can find the regs.

                          And the OP needs to press Federal quite a bit more for a discount or replacement, as that product is certainly not 'quality' or up to par with the premium price being charged for it.

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                          • #28
                            westcoastr
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • May 2007
                            • 557

                            i have found the federal vital shok ammo with barnes tsx's to be, frankly, junk...really really expensive junk.

                            it groups nearly 3" at 100 yds while even the fusion ammo was 0.7" and my barnes MRX handloads at 0.5" obviously my rifle might just like the other better but....

                            the tsx tips were damaged just as Bobula's pic showed but worst of all was that after i chambered and then extracted an unfired round, the bullet became loose and the crimp no longer held it in place. disaster. who running their production lines?? bugs bunny and daffy the duck?

                            stay away from this stuff until federal gets its act together
                            Westcoastr

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                            • #29
                              Bobula
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2007
                              • 9385

                              It's also the only lead free any of my local shops carry. Looks like loadx will be getting my business from now on.
                              Originally posted by Kestryll
                              Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

                              Fascist pig....

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                              • #30
                                Cranium
                                Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 346

                                The dude from Load-X (Steve?) is rad. I've had nothing but positive experiences with him and his ammo, and he's very reasonably priced (especially with brass exchange)

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