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  • #16
    Duds0311
    Junior Member
    • May 2014
    • 16

    it wont work for my 700, however i do have an ar that ive built up to mimic a dmr... that will work, i also have an ar with iron sights and a red dot, ill take the red dot off and shoot that too!

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    • #17
      highpower790
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 3481

      Originally posted by Duds0311
      it wont work for my 700, however i do have an ar that ive built up to mimic a dmr... that will work, i also have an ar with iron sights and a red dot, ill take the red dot off and shoot that too!
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      Keep it simple!

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      • #18
        45R
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 2028

        I am running a Remington 700SPS Tactical and a friend of mine is running a Remington 5R.

        I used the information for the thread below to come up with a good starting point.



        These were the results using IMR 4064, once fired FGMM with 175SMK and 210M primers. COAL was 2.800

        Last edited by 45R; 05-22-2014, 8:23 AM.
        Pistol-Training.com

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        • #19
          Duds0311
          Junior Member
          • May 2014
          • 16

          That's some nice shooting... Thanks again everyone


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          • #20
            jtake
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 367

            Ladder tests really need distance to see the differences in the loads, and 100Y will not give you sufficient meaningful separation between the loads.

            You might want to OCW testing (Optimal Charge Weight) where you look not at group size, but group location, to identify accuracy nodes. These nodes are powder ranges where minor differences in charge weight will still impact in the same spot.

            Here is a link to Dan Newberry's site and instructions for performing a OCW test.

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            • #21
              Duds0311
              Junior Member
              • May 2014
              • 16

              That's what I normally do, I just didn't want to use that many rounds. But at 100 yards that's what I'm going to have to do


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              • #22
                jtake
                Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 367

                Well, as posted above, Snipershide has a great thread on sleuthing the FGMM load for 175 smk and so you can start your development around that load. That should reduce the number of exploratory rounds you need to fill.



                My rifle likes 41.4 IMR 4064, 175 SMK, CCI 200, LC 13. Currently seating them around 0.02 off of the lands, and I seat off of the ogive rather than COAL.
                Last edited by jtake; 05-22-2014, 1:19 PM. Reason: Added load info I use

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                • #23
                  BallisticLogistics
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 3

                  Originally posted by jtake
                  Well, as posted above, Snipershide has a great thread on sleuthing the FGMM load for 175 smk and so you can start your development around that load. That should reduce the number of exploratory rounds you need to fill.



                  My rifle likes 41.4 IMR 4064, 175 SMK, CCI 200, LC 13. Currently seating them around 0.02 off of the lands, and I seat off of the ogive rather than COAL.
                  What are your thoughts on the difference between #200 and #34 with using 4064? I usually go with #34 and I am new to this but I thought that would be a decent start with that setup.

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                  • #24
                    jtake
                    Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 367

                    I am limited to a 100y range, so I doubt I would see any significant differences between different primers. There are some comparisons out there between different primers using different powders etc. that show differences between primers, but I am not sure if I am that consistent to really get accurate taget readings: http://www.accuratereloading.com/primer.html

                    I have some Federal 210 coming and hope to compare those with the CCI 200s, but I probably won't be able to hit the range for another month. I have a magnetospeed and will chart MV for the two primers using 4064.

                    Originally posted by BallisticLogistics
                    What are your thoughts on the difference between #200 and #34 with using 4064? I usually go with #34 and I am new to this but I thought that would be a decent start with that setup.

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                    • #25
                      Dirk Tungsten
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 2046

                      I don't remember where I found this, but it's says it's for 175g 308, so maybe the data will help you, OP:

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                      • #26
                        Duds0311
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 16

                        jtake im going to hit the range tomorrow and do the ocw test, not the ladder.


                        you guys are like my own shooting encyclopedia.

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                        • #27
                          45R
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2028

                          Originally posted by Dirk Tungsten
                          I don't remember where I found this, but it's says it's for 175g 308, so maybe the data will help you, OP:


                          That is a pretty good load.
                          Pistol-Training.com

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                          • #28
                            peacedivision
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 1717

                            My pet load, federal brass, CCI primer, 175smk, 42.7gr 4064 @ 2.805 COAL. Under book max but start low and work up

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                            • #29
                              JMP
                              Internet Warrior
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 17056

                              44.0--175gr SMK/Scenar
                              44.4--168gr/167gr SMK/Scenar
                              0.002" neck tension
                              2.800" COAL

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                              • #30
                                peacedivision
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 1717

                                JMP what brass are you using? I've noticed some definite sticky bolt lift at 42.7gr on a hot day but no pressure signs beyond that. All my brass is full length sized -0.002 back from fire formed, partial neck sized .002 tension. Still need to chrono my load and see what I'm getting from a 20" barrel. Gonna go run some Nosler brass today 39-43 gr

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