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  • rman
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2267

    Took the Plunge!

    Now that my gun collecting is slowing, and my shooting sessions are a bit more frequent, i decided to step up to reloading.

    I took everyone's advice and am starting with a progressive.
    All kidding aside, once you're all done telling me how bad of an idea that was, i look forward to learning more!

    So far this is what's on order:
    -Hornady LNL AP
    -Shotshell 45
    -Shell holder 45 (don't think I actually need this?)
    -Hornady die set (taper crimp)
    -Hornady PTX .451
    -Hornady bullet feeder die (for $28 bullet feed)
    -RCBS Lockout
    -3x Small primer pickup tubes
    -3x Large primer pickup tubes
    -RCBS primer flippy thing
    -10x Bushings
    -3x retainer springs
    -Frankford Arsenal scale
    -Hornady M-2 tumbler
    -Hornady One Shot / Dry Lube

    Ordered the press during a PSA sale, and everything else from midway since there was (is) a $45 off $300 coupon.

    Still need:
    -Manual
    -bullets
    -Primers
    -Powder

    Anything else i'm missing?

    I have a heavy stainless steel cart at my parents house that has a 3 station 12g setup on it, I plan to steal that and mount the LNL to it.
    Obviously I have a lot of studying and learning to do, but I'm very excited!

    I plan to start with 45acp, since thats my favorite caliber and somewhat pricey.
    Eventually want to load 9mm, 40 s&w, 357sig, 10mm and 460...

    Then of course 5.56, 300BLK, 308, 6.8 SPC and maybe even brass cased 7.62x39 for the indoor ranges....



    Sent from my Apple Galaxy Note 7
    Last edited by rman; 05-11-2014, 12:27 PM.
  • #2
    sealocan
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2012
    • 9950

    congratulations!

    always be careful, remember what the drunk carpenter said ...

    "measure once, cut twice"

    and then don't ever be that guy.

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    • #3
      uhlan1
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2012
      • 6217

      Calipers?

      Pistol powder is the unicorn right now, worse than during the Great Panic at its zenith imo. I'd get very busy trying to land some.

      I started with the LnL as well. You may want to start out running it as a sort of single stage, just running one case around the plate at a time as you learn each step.
      "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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      • #4
        rman
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 2267

        I've heard the same about the powder....


        I do have a set of calipers already, my trusty HF calipers are fairly reliable as long as you zero them often.

        Anything else I might be missing?

        Can't wait to get into this... then start loading for my other calibers.
        Last edited by rman; 05-11-2014, 1:29 PM.

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        • #5
          Rac97crawford
          Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 194

          Get a bullet puller. You'll have quite a bit of trial by error in the beginning. And As the other poster said, best to start out using it like a single stage. Work each stage by itself until it's setting your round component properly. Even without powder, you can get your first test round completely built and measured. Then you can pull the empty rounds with your puller.
          Also, start off with small batches that you test through your gun before you do a production run. With a progressive, it's really easy to replicate a problem across a few hundred rounds quickly.

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          • #6
            rman
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 2267

            Originally posted by Rac97crawford
            Get a bullet puller. You'll have quite a bit of trial by error in the beginning. And As the other poster said, best to start out using it like a single stage. Work each stage by itself until it's setting your round component properly. Even without powder, you can get your first test round completely built and measured. Then you can pull the empty rounds with your puller.
            Also, start off with small batches that you test through your gun before you do a production run. With a progressive, it's really easy to replicate a problem across a few hundred rounds quickly.
            thanks for the advice, i can totally see myself making 500 bad rounds before my first range trip!

            Sent from my Apple Galaxy Note 7

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            • #7
              Rac97crawford
              Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 194

              Just thought about another gotcha that I went through. I started on a dillion 650 for my first and started with 45acp. If you're using range brass or any mixed other than factory new, you'll need to sort them all to pull out the small pistol primer 45's. It's a pain to be running a progressive and then hitting small primer cases mixed in with the large. Even worse would be accidently forcing a large primer into a small pocket..

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              • #8
                rman
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 2267

                Originally posted by Rac97crawford
                Just thought about another gotcha that I went through. I started on a dillion 650 for my first and started with 45acp. If you're using range brass or any mixed other than factory new, you'll need to sort them all to pull out the small pistol primer 45's. It's a pain to be running a progressive and then hitting small primer cases mixed in with the large. Even worse would be accidently forcing a large primer into a small pocket..
                thanks for the heads up - already did that

                All my CCI Blazer Brass is SPP... have about 300 cases in SSP and another 200+ in LPP... still have another 600 rounds of the Blazer Brass and I'm sure I'll keep what I can recover in circulation... so I'll just have to get use to sorting SPP vs LPP.

                I hesitated the other day on buying bullets from XtremeBullets during their $5 shipping sale... looks like I may have to wait it out..

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                • #9
                  uhlan1
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 6217

                  yea, the guy who came up with that idea should be dragged out behind the wood shed for a long and painful session. Seems like there's more and more of the little buggers too.
                  "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                  • #10
                    chknlyps2
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 2191

                    -Hornady PTX .451
                    -Hornady bullet feeder die (for $28 bullet feed)
                    The PTX comes with the bullet feeder die kit and Midway has it on sale for $21.99. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/337...ProductFinding

                    The add does not mention that it is included though.
                    Wanted: Spent Berdan primed Yugo 7.62x39 & 7.5x55 GP11 Swiss brass

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                    • #11
                      Che762x39
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 4538

                      Originally posted by rman
                      thanks for the advice, i can totally see myself making 500 bad rounds before my first range trip!

                      Sent from my Apple Galaxy Note 7
                      Great hobby and I have been doing it since 1982. Others here have been doing it way longer than me.

                      Make ammo in lots of 50 or less when trying out a new recipe or bullet shape.

                      A friend was making 38 wadcutters and decided to make lead semi wadcutters to have a 'duty type' round, forgot to crimp 300 rounds.

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                      • #12
                        rman
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 2267

                        Originally posted by chknlyps2
                        The PTX comes with the bullet feeder die kit and Midway has it on sale for $21.99. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/337...ProductFinding

                        The add does not mention that it is included though.
                        isnt the ptx size specific? i.e. i got the 451 whereas say the 452 is for the LC?

                        Sent from my Apple Galaxy Note 7

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                        • #13
                          xMAC1x
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 915

                          http://www.midwayusa.com/product/244...imp-die-45-acp.

                          Seating the bullet and crimping can be very challenging in the same die.

                          So seat with the hornady die only.

                          Then crimp with the lee die.

                          This set up will save you a lot of time and hassle.

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                          • #14
                            egpost916
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 506

                            Congrats! Reloading can be a very enjoyable hobby. Just wish powders were easier to find these days.

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                            • #15
                              Capybara
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 15414

                              If you have not reloaded before, I strongly suggest you attend at least one reloading club clinic and learn how to reload before jumping into an advanced machine like a progressive. Not sure where you are located but we have club chapters all over the state. I have read many posts here and elsewhere from newbies who crank out a lot of loads on their new progressive to find out later that they had varying powder charges, overloaded powder charges, squibs, incorrectly seated primers, etc. and they end up having to tear apart hundreds of cartridges to fix the issue. Do at least one session on a single stage at a clinic, then when you set up your LNL AP, you will understand what is happening all at once on a progressive and how to make safe loads.
                              NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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