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  • cindynles
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 2806

    Primer fell out during match

    Well this is a new one for me. During a match today I had a nasty malfunction. Afterwords the RO handed me one of the rounds I racked out and there was no primer in it . I looked back at the video and saw that the primer actually came out of the round during manipulation. I guess the primer pocket was really loose (it was a WWB case). Something else to watch out for while loading I guess.



    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759
  • #2
    J-cat
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2005
    • 6626

    Do you prime using a hand tool? You should.

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    • #3
      bigedp51
      Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 263

      I use a Lee depriming tool to check my primers, if I can push the primer out with just finger pressure the brass goes in the scrap bucket. You can also buy pin gauges to check your primer pockets and pre inspect the cases.





      I prime my cases by hand and the old RCBS unit below has plenty of feel.

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      • #4
        Germz
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Apr 2013
        • 4691

        judging by the ground color, Pala?
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        • #5
          cindynles
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 2806

          Yes, it was at Pala today. I just confirmed it was the primer pocket. I was able to seat a new primer into that case using just finger pressure. I prime on the press (550B). That is the first time anything like that has ever happened to me. I will have to be more attentive to the feel of the primer seating.
          "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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          • #6
            klewan
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 3031

            Now you know why the military crimps the primers...

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            • #7
              Jeymz
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 292

              I have not had much luck with Winchester brass (rifle or pistol). The primer pockets feel looser than all my other brass. These were on once fired and/or one time reloads. They just don't feel as snug as I would like when seating primers.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57169

                Originally posted by Jeymz
                The primer pockets feel looser than all my other brass.
                They just don't feel as snug as I would like when seating primers.
                Wolf/Tula primers run a little larger and will give you a tighter fit.
                Randall Rausch

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                • #9
                  Che762x39
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4538

                  Originally posted by cindynles
                  Well this is a new one for me. During a match today I had a nasty malfunction. Afterwords the RO handed me one of the rounds I racked out and there was no primer in it . I looked back at the video and saw that the primer actually came out of the round during manipulation. I guess the primer pocket was really loose (it was a WWB case). Something else to watch out for while loading I guess.
                  I shot handguns in competition for ten years with reloads (no sponsor) and I have never seen that happen. What components were used in that round? Thanks in advance

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                  • #10
                    cindynles
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2806

                    Originally posted by Che762x39
                    I shot handguns in competition for ten years with reloads (no sponsor) and I have never seen that happen. What components were used in that round? Thanks in advance
                    Winchester WB brass (headstamp 12 with a crimp ring), CCI Small Pistol Primer, Xtreme 115 RN bullet, 4.5gr HP-38, 1.125" OAL, lite taper crimp, Loaded on a Dillon 550B press, gage checked with a Lyman case gage (100% check all my match ammo).

                    I was able to seat another CCI SPP by hand, but it didn't fall out with hand shaking (it did fall out with some lite tapping on the edge of my bench).

                    Looking at the video again I think the racking when I was trying to clear the stoppage is when the primer came out.
                    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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                    • #11
                      uhlan1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 6217

                      I reload and shoot at a minimum 2k rounds a month and have never had that happen.
                      Fantastic documentation though.
                      Last edited by uhlan1; 04-12-2014, 11:05 PM. Reason: Can't spell worth crap these days.
                      "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57169

                        I have had quite a few 9mm cases lose primers in my ammo bag before I loaded them into the gun.
                        Now, I check my ammo bag for loose powder and primers and I chase down the dribblers if I find any loose powder and primers...
                        Randall Rausch

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                        • #13
                          Kappy
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 5349

                          Wow. I've never had a primer come out. At least this won't cause a kaboom.

                          At least I can't think of a way it will. More just an annoyance and loss of time.


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                          • #14
                            J-cat
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2005
                            • 6626

                            Originally posted by cindynles
                            Winchester WB brass (headstamp 12 with a crimp ring), CCI Small Pistol Primer, Xtreme 115 RN bullet, 4.5gr HP-38, 1.125" OAL, lite taper crimp, Loaded on a Dillon 550B press, gage checked with a Lyman case gage
                            Looks like the brass you used was previously loaded over pressure and has loose primer pockets.

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                            • #15
                              Wrangler John
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1799

                              Forest Gump was right!

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