First time

[Kmai24]

No need to apologize..at least you're asking rather than assuming.
Work up loads:
Let's say you find load data for the cartridge you're loading (of course cross the data with at least 2 or 3 different datas, I usually use 2 manuals and my 3rd would be the internet)
Get all of the mins/max and divided by 3 (or however many data you use) and back off 10% and start your load from there.
Ex:
4.5 (source 1)
4.3 (source 2)
4 (source 3)
Add up those 3 and divide by 3, that roughly comes out to 4.26 now back off 10% (.42)
4.26-.42= 3.84 (you can round up to 3.9gr

So start from 3.9gr make 7-10 rounds..go up .5grs and make another 7-10 rounds. Keep repeating that till you get close to your max. When you start to get close to your max go up in increments by 2/.3gr before you reach your max
To find your max will be the same way as finding the min

Sorry to babble but hope this makes sense. If not, by all means ask questions

[cruddymutt]

What are you shooting the 9mm out of? I only ask because I just recently ran into an issue reloading 9mm for an AR. It seems 9mm AR's like hotter loads.

[Ghostjr]

Kmai24 thanks a lot for the info I will do that next when I have time to make another batch. As of right now I only have 2 sources, Speer #14 which doesn't have the powder I'm using and the internet. When I get paid I'm going to invest probably in a lee Manual. I have an XD and i did want to make an AR 9mm.

[stilly]

Usually when a round fails to cycle or eject all the way, it is because the round is charged a bit low. Up the charge will usually reduce/fix that. It sounds like you are on the right path. At least you started with data from the MANUFACTURER'S WEBSITE.

BTW, The Lee Manual- Modern Reloading 2nd edition is filled with manufacturer's info. It is the LARGEST collection of data that is published currently. It should do you good to get that manual.

I recall my first 9mm loads were using WST with SRM primers and I forgot the numbers. But they all went bang and worked fine out of the Taurus pt-92 and the glock.

[Kmai24]

You're welcome

@stilly..great emphasis on the "manufacturers website". Can't always trust what other people post.

[Ghostjr]

I live in San Jose where's a good place to buy bullets, primer and powder?

[Kmai24]

Sorry Ghostjr..wouldn't be able to help you there. I do all of my shopping online. I buy in bulk quantities to offset the hazmat fee for powder and primers. Projectiles I order from Xtreme. Fairly priced for plinking rounds. Check out gunbot.net if you haven't already. There's sections for powders/primers but you have to hawk it and when something is available jump on it like it's your last time getting laid!!! Literally, something may be available for just a few seconds and as you go to check out it'll be gone! Good luck and safe reloading.

[tsl1111]

I am using the same components and I also started at 4.5 without success. Here is what ended up cycling both of my 9mm consistently and with good accuracy.

800x 5.2 gr
Oal @ 1.11
Berrys 115 plated
CCI primer
Mixed brass

4.5 would not cycle either gun. 4.7 cycled one gun, but not the other. 5.1 to 5.2 works in both.

I have to ask, what press are you using? If it is a Lee Pro 1000 you will have to adjust the powder drop much larger then the Lee data shows for a 5gr powder drop. I have heard Lee underestimates for safety and I have noted you need the larger hole for the flake of the 800x to drop consistently at 5 or more grains.

Load manual data for 9mm with 800x is scarce. I web searched multiple sources and garnered info from many forums to come up with the 4.5 to 5.5gr scale. Landed on 5.2 after working up from 4.5 in whatever increments the Lee powder drop would allow without exceeding max.

[Ghostjr]

Thanks I'm happy I'm not the only one. I'm using a lee turret http://www.midwayusa.com/product/880...vc=subv1880135. What where the guns that work and which didn't? Again I'm sorry to ask the noob questions.

[ar15barrels]

My first reloads were too long. My Lee data and Hogdon site both said the OAL was 1.1 for my LRN bullets, and I was set right at 1.1. Had all kinds of feed problems. Turned out the bullet was hitting the lands and sticking. I compared the 'fit' to factory loads and saw this:

My reloads were not seating all the way into the chamber and you could feel they were snug:


Compared to factory load that set flush and move freely.


I had to shorten the OAL to 1.03 for consistently good feeding. You might want to check them in your barrel.

NOTE: this was a Lonewolf 40-9 conversion barrel in a Glock 23. YMMV

Your particular problem is actually the chamber dimensions.
The chamber is setup for 0.355" diameter bullets while most cast bullets are .356" diameter.
In order to properly seat your bulllets to 1.100" or 1.130", the barrel needs to be throated for 0.356" diameter bullets.

I do this as a matter of standard practice on almost every lone wolf barrel that comes through my shop for this reason...

[ElDub1950]

Your particular problem is actually the chamber dimensions.
The chamber is setup for 0.355" diameter bullets while most cast bullets are .356" diameter.
In order to properly seat your bulllets to 1.100" or 1.130", the barrel needs to be throated for 0.356" diameter bullets.

I do this as a matter of standard practice on almost every lone wolf barrel that comes through my shop for this reason...

Randall, Thanks! Great info that I hadn't considered. Lonewolf does state the dimensions are tighter than stock. I need to do some comparison measurements with both factory ammo (all has been fine) and the 115 gr LRN I used first and the new 124 gr SWC that I just received, but haven't loaded any yet. I might need to do that to mine.

[tsl1111]

Thanks I'm happy I'm not the only one. I'm using a lee turret http://www.midwayusa.com/product/880...vc=subv1880135. What where the guns that work and which didn't? Again I'm sorry to ask the noob questions.