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  • h.charlie
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    • Feb 2014
    • 497

    first mistake nd want thoughts

    So I was loading 270win, doing the first time full length resizing when I changed brass from hornady to federal I got this weird bulge in the federal neck just above the shoulder, I didnt notice tell I got the bullets were on them before i start the pulling and shooting off the primers is the brass usable still? heres a crappy paint pic of what Im trying to convey, the bullet comes out at a slight angle when seated
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    h.charlie
    Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 497

    I do think it is a danger to shoot them when the bullet is not lined up to the barrel? I'm rather new to reloading only have done some 25 rem, 270win and have been working on 5.56, so no more then 700 rounds this is my first mistake, would a full length re-size get that bulge out? and line it all back up?

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    • #3
      stilly
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      • Jul 2009
      • 10685

      Too much crimp or bump?
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      • #4
        stevied
        Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 638

        How did you set up your seating die? I wouldn't shoot it.
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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          Originally posted by stevied
          How did you set up your seating die? I wouldn't shoot it.
          I think there's a problem with the seating die or how it's set up too. But, I'd probably shoot them. Of course, I can't say that I'd shoot them for sure until I actually see them.
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          • #6
            h.charlie
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            • Feb 2014
            • 497

            seating die was set to A coal of 3.320 using a set of case length gauges i made from left over bullets and bad brass. I use the le dead length bullet seater, I set it up by put the ram all the way up tighten the die till it hits the ram and back a qurter turn out, back out the adjustment screw then run the gaige into the die and tighten the adjuster till it hits the gauge. Am I correct in thinking They need to be pulled and full length re-sized or is the bulge and the off angle in the neck A nail in cases head?

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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
              • 44093

              I am not positive if your seating die also crimps but, I think it does. So, your problem is that you set your seating die too low and it's crimping the bullet before it is completely seated. This is causing the neck to bend a little because, the bullet is locked in the neck before it gets completely seated. Try backing out the seating die body and just seating the bullet with that die. If you feel the need to crimp, use a crimp die later. This will at least tell you if I'm correct or not in my assumption. Of course, it could just be a bad seating die.
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              • #8
                diverwcw
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                • Dec 2012
                • 2693

                Toss the brass. Although it's not recommended, I have deprimed live primers and reused them.
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                • #9
                  J-cat
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2005
                  • 6626

                  Why toss the brass?

                  Take them apart, FL size the brass, and do over.

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                  • #10
                    stevied
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 638

                    I don't know what dies you are using, but usually you want to extend the ram, screw the die to the ram, then back out a full turn. You then can adjust the screw down to get the col that you need. You don't need to toss the brass but if they are bad enough I would pull the projectiles and fl size and start over. Unless you are loading for a semi gun I would skimp the crimp; it's not needed.
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                    • #11
                      J-cat
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2005
                      • 6626

                      What you need to do is take a sized case, screw the seater die on top of it until you feel the die contact the case mouth, then back off half a turn. That way you know the die isn't crimping.

                      When seating, start the bullet in the case, then spin the case 180 degrees and finish seating. That way you won't seat them crooked and bulge the neck.

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