DILLON USERS HELP

[Matixten]

So my buddy recently introduced himself to the reloading world and bought a 650. Recently he had the chance to set up the press and put everything in place without dialing anything in. Today we both were off and decided that I would show him how to load pistol. After going through all the paces with and making everything was good we ran into a problem.

With the final product done and checking if the bullet will chamber properly in the case gauge, it gets stuck 3/4th of the way. I backed up the belling, seating, and crimp and went through the process again. Some would chamber properly and others again would get stuck. I called Dillon and address the problem we were having, they advise that I keep backing up the crimp die to the point where the bullet sits enough inside the curve of the crimp. I follow what was told and still coming to 3/4th in the case gauge.

What are we missing or can it be the brass? (Winchester Brass with 200GRN wadcutters) 45ACP

Please chime in here or PM me. Thank You ahead of time

[tiller]

So my buddy recently introduced himself to the reloading world and bought a 650. Recently he had the chance to set up the press and put everything in place without dialing anything in. Today we both were off and decided that I would show him how to load pistol. After going through all the paces with and making everything was good we ran into a problem.

With the final product done and checking if the bullet will chamber properly in the case gauge, it gets stuck 3/4th of the way. I backed up the belling, seating, and crimp and went through the process again. Some would chamber properly and others again would get stuck. I called Dillon and address the problem we were having, they advise that I keep backing up the crimp die to the point where the bullet sits enough inside the curve of the crimp. I follow what was told and still coming to 3/4th in the case gauge.

What are we missing or can it be the brass? (Winchester Brass with 200GRN wadcutters) 45ACP

Please chime in here or PM me. Thank You ahead of time

You sure there wad cutters? That's most likely the problem? Did you cast them yourself?

[Matixten]

You sure there wad cutters? That's most likely the problem? Did you cast them yourself?

No way Jose....... He purchases them from Missouri Bullet Co.

[tiller]

No way Jose....... He purchases them from Missouri Bullet Co.

Ok soo are they SEMI wad cutters?

It just sounds like your sizing die isn't far enough in the press.. Turn it down until it just kisses the shell plate

[SWIFT50]

Check sizing die. Raise the platform all the way up and run the die down till the die touches the shell plate. Then back it off about half a turn. Lower the platform and place a shell In station number one. Resize the shell and leave the handle down and tighten your die. Check case gauge, and make sure it's flushed with the low side of the gauge.

[Frozenguy]

Did you follow the instructions that came with the press?

It tells you how to set the seating die.

Then it says for bell, about 20 thousandths of an inch should be good. that is 0.02" increase max is whats recomended.

Then seat the bullet so you have a OAL appropriate for your load/bullet.

Then set the crimp so it removes the bell and brings the case mouth down to about 0.470" I'm pretty sure.

My rounds weren't cambering because the crimp wasn't done enough.. dont back the crimp out, you might need to push it further.

Do you have a set of calipers? This will tell you.

[Reelemup]

Check sizing die. Raise the platform all the way up and run the die down till the die touches the shell plate. Then back it off about half a turn. Lower the platform and place a shell In station number one. Resize the shell and leave the handle down and tighten your die. Check case gauge, and make sure it's flushed with the low side of the gauge.

I thought it was the other way....raise up turn the sizing die to touch then turn a half more down

[Matixten]

OK so heres the update.

Removed all dies and started fresh reading the manual over again. Once completed I put a dry case in and reloaded with the exception of no primer and powder. Long story short I came across the same problem.

Can it be that some of the brass needs to be trimmed. I was under the impression that pistol brass never really had to be trimmed?

I'll be giving the guys in blue a call early AM tomorrow.

[Frozenguy]

OK so heres the update.

Removed all dies and started fresh reading the manual over again. Once completed I put a dry case in and reloaded with the exception of no primer and powder. Long story short I came across the same problem.

Can it be that some of the brass needs to be trimmed. I was under the impression that pistol brass never really had to be trimmed?

I'll be giving the guys in blue a call early AM tomorrow.

Do you have calipers?

[Matixten]

Do you have calipers?

Yes

[Frozenguy]

Yes

What's the case mouth diameter on the edge after crimping?

[bruce381]

Dillons case gauge is on the small side I have some stick also, i set them aside and they ALL chamber in my guns fine.

I set anything sticky aside in a baggie and label as such then If/When i shoot them i weill be aware and looking for any problems.

Use the gun barrel as a gauge and see it they still stick.
Also set size die to just about hitting shellplate when the shellplate is all the way up.

Tapper crimp to .470-.472 range but for now start with the gun barrel and use it as a gauge.

[bruce381]

also some cast boolits are sized at .452 this will cause a slight bulge in the case cause they are larger than jacketed .451 boolts this is normal and again they maybe fine but will hang up on the dillion case gusge die so again try in clean barrel chamber with barrel out of the gun.

Even my sticky only go 1/2 way into a dillion case gauge will chamber and shoot fine in my match guns.

[CAL.BAR]

Yep, had the same thing once. As indicated above, die #1 (resizing) is not down all the way. Just as noted, bring it down until it just kisses the shell plate. Easy fix.

[Matixten]

What's the case mouth diameter on the edge after crimping?

.452 After decap and resize
.485 After powder moving into sizing
.475 After crimp