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  • hundy
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2013
    • 550

    AR reloading

    Went shooting last Monday. Have about 400, 223 and 5.56 brass to reload.
    I have been reloading for awhile. But never 223 or 5.56. I have the RCBS AR Series reload dies.
    I need help. On my 20th casing give or take a few, I broke my decapping pin. I ran to my LGS and they do not have it. I found it on Midway. Before I order 2 more, just curious if this is common, or what can I do to prevent this from happening.
    Second issue is, I am having a tough time getting the primers to seat. I have never had that problem until now, at least not on this scale.

    Thanks

    Jay
  • #2
    edrex
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 360

    If the primers were crimped you need to swage them before you reload. What kind of brass?
    Also, you might be able to get a new decapping pin under warranty. Check with RCBS and see if they will replace it before you order one.
    It's not the flaming ruins; it's that you lit the fire.

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    • #3
      mark501w
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1699

      Some cases are crimped can be tough on your equipment. Once you get the primers out you have to remove the crimp you can swedge or cut the crimp out.

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      • #4
        bsumoba
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 4217

        de-crimp. use a crimp trimmer or something like a Dillon SuperSwage. Make sure if you use a trimmer to not trim too much. you may create loose pocket primers.
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        • #5
          ar15robert
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2002
          • 2494

          You may have had a berdan primed brass.Thats the only way i have broken the decaper pins.It does happen when you pick up brass you might get someones left over mixed in with you regular primed brass.Always keep spares.

          As far as crimped primer pockets i have been using the reamer tool that comes with the rcbs kits to remove the crimp been doing this for 15-16 years this way.Never been a problem.

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          • #6
            hundy
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jun 2013
            • 550

            Thank you

            I called RCBS and they are sending me a replacement piece. After talking to them I probably set the pin to low. So I have a better understanding on how to set up the pin.
            I have some mil-spec ammo I have not yet fired, and those are obviously crimped. I did not think the ones we shot were crimped, but on second inspection they may be. Real hard to tell. So I will see if I can find a tool to remove those.

            Thanks again for the help

            Jay

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            • #7
              edrex
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 360

              Post pics of the primer pockets on the brass you are working with if you can.
              It's not the flaming ruins; it's that you lit the fire.

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              • #8
                ocabj
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 7924

                Get the Lee Universal Decapping Die. After I broke a dozen RCBS pins, including pins in the RCBS universal decapping die, I got the Lee and have been using the same pin/stem in the Lee ever since 2004.

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                • #9
                  jetman624
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 514

                  I use a Lee Universal decapping tool and wet tumble my brass before it goes into any of the other dies.

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                  • #10
                    hemiguy55
                    STUD MUFFIN
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 825

                    ^^^^ +1.
                    Originally posted by starsnuffer
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                    • #11
                      ZRen
                      Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 231

                      There's several ways to remove the crimp on 223/5.56 primer pockets. Military brass will always have a crimped primer pocket, which will always need to be removed before the brass can be reloaded.

                      You can get something like this LE Wilson chamfer tool


                      Or you can go fancier and buy a motorized case prep device. Really up to you, your budget and your needs.

                      Here's a good image to help you identify crimped vs non-crimped brass.
                      The one on top is crimped. The bottom one is not.

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                      • #12
                        the86d
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 9587

                        Originally posted by ZRen
                        ......
                        You can put the round portion in your DeWalt... I used to use a step-bit for this function.

                        I have since moved to Primer Pocket Swaging, but used to use these Primer pocket reamers-mostly:


                        ...and these tips also fit the DeWalt, on the screw-side, and worked WELL.

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                        • #13
                          sl0re10
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7242

                          Originally posted by ocabj
                          Get the Lee Universal Decapping Die. After I broke a dozen RCBS pins, including pins in the RCBS universal decapping die, I got the Lee and have been using the same pin/stem in the Lee ever since 2004.
                          I also use this:


                          When you have some really tightly crimped primers you can switch to this and use with a hammer to knock them out. Geco takes 3 or four whacks...

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                          • #14
                            3RDGEARGRNDRR
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 900

                            Buy a LEE deprimer/decapper, and if it breaks, oh well,
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                            • #15
                              wild_weasel
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1256

                              I use the RCBS AR 223/5.56 dies as well and have had no issues like yours with a variety of brass from the range. If you call RCBS directly they will send you replacement pins at no charge. I once bought used RCBS 22 Hornet dies and they repalce the entire expander/decapper stem at no charge even after I told them the dies were used.
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