Getting a press.. How does this list look *Update*: Order placed!

[Frozenguy]

So I just measured many of my .223 brass and it all falls within ~1.740-1.7450
I could reload brass with this spec without trimming right?


I'm thinking I'll do the trimming and loading for 30-06 on a single stage like the rock chucker?

For the .223 I'll do the trimming on the single stage and then the loading on the 650.

The dillon trimmer sizes too. Do I need to lube before it goes in the trimmer?
I then have to expand the neck.
Do you need to lube to deprime and expand the neck?

For the single stage how about this: (I have prime)

http://www.amazon.com/RCBS-Chucker-Supreme-Master-Reloading/dp/B0078MWM2W/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1388783967&sr=1-1&keywords=rock+chucker+supreme+master+kit

I hear it's a good single stage, comes with a powder measure, an additional scale (I have a frankford digital), a reloading manual (will be my third), and a hand priming tool.
What else would I need besides dies to load 30-06 with this kit?
What else would I need to trim .223 on this press considering I have the trimmer and dies from dillon.

My new Brian Enos cart is looking like this:

-- XL 650 - $566.95
-- Case feeder -$219.95
-- quick change caliber conversions - $107.99
-- Caliber conversion kit - $77.95
-- 45 ACP dies, carbide - $63.95
-- .30-06 dies, steel - $66.95
-- .223 dies, steel - $66.95
-- (6) large primer pick up tubes - $35.95
-- (6) small primer pick up tubes - $35.95
-- Case feeder plate for small rifle - $38.95
-- Powder check alarm - $68.95
-- Primer flip tray - $20.95
-- Aluminum roller handle - $45.95
-- 1200B Case trimmer - $267.95
-- Trim/size die 30-06 - $57.98
-- Trim/size die .223/5.56 - $50.99
-- Super Swage 600 - $100.95

TOTAL $1895.26 before tax.
I'll go through Brian Enos.

[johnniezombie]

Wtf is your budget? Why are you thinking of buying two presses as a new reloader?

If you have a pile of cash then just get a fully loaded xl650 with all of the conversion kits.

If youre on a low end budget and just starting out, go with a Rock Chucker type scenario.

Mid-range: RL 550B

I'm wondering why you are planning on buying different presses?

[Bumslie]

Holy hell.

Dude. You need to attend a reloading clinic, or get some hands on experience before you blow all that cash.

[Frozenguy]

Wtf is your budget? Why are you thinking of buying two presses as a new reloader?

If you have a pile of cash then just get a fully loaded xl650 with all of the conversion kits.

If youre on a low end budget and just starting out, go with a Rock Chucker type scenario.

Mid-range: RL 550B

I'm wondering why you are planning on buying different presses?

I tend to see and read about others with single stage and progressives and how they find each better for different situations.

Holy hell.

Dude. You need to attend a reloading clinic, or get some hands on experience before you blow all that cash.

I can't imagine I'd start breaking stuff. Just have a lot of equipment to start off slow.
I have tended to do things *** backwards my entire life but I also have a lot of respect for the intricacies and details of what I'm doing so things have seemed to work out fine.

I'm going to buy the equipment sooner or later, so why not now.

[Frozenguy]

speaking of *** backwards.

I just got my first order of primers and powder
CCI small rifle and large pistol
IMR 4350

I've dropped about $1k on components already.

I'm very experienced at being inexperienced.

[Bumslie]

Fair enough. Your money, do what you want.

[johnniezombie]

Guys that use single stage presses that aren't new or broke are generally loading precision loads for hunting rounds. i.e. very slow and methodical. So yes that makes sense for a 30-06 but you can be just as diligent with a progressive press and save a lot in equipment. You'll also have the advantage of loading mass rounds per hour with a progressive.

If you have the funds then go with the progressive. With your current plan you will be selling the single stage gear in a few months because you never use it.

[bruce381]

I have had a 650 for ?? 25 years and just NOW got a case feeder pretty nice tho. forget the case trimmer and get a cheaper hand crank foster model.

[xMAC1x]

You have received a lot of good advice. Pistol is easy, rifle is a labor of love. Abc of reloading & some reloading manuals, take in the reloading clinics that would be a great place to start.

[johnniezombie]

There is an LA Chapter of the reloading club that helps out new guys. I know that Field Time in Westminster has a free reloading clinic next weekend I believe. Even the OC chapter has a reloading club even coming up soon.

[mark501w]

That's a good price on the rockchucker kit. You need a trmmer dies & a tumbler. All of that equipment you will use forever not wasted money. I've had two of those scales both hit the trash I still use my balance scale.

[bill_k_lopez]

Maybe its just me - but for "first time" reloading (or first time anything) why would someone want to jump in for 2 grand? I think a lee single stage press and set of dies for a single caliber would be a much more prudent investment for a "first time" reloading stab.

[Sticka]

you can get a brand new case feeder on ebay for a lot cheaper

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Case-Feeder-...item3389528589

That is not a Dillon case feeder, it is a crappy knock off that fits a Dillon....big difference!!

[Frozenguy]

Maybe its just me - but for "first time" reloading (or first time anything) why would someone want to jump in for 2 grand? I think a lee single stage press and set of dies for a single caliber would be a much more prudent investment for a "first time" reloading stab.

I know I'm not going to quit after I start..
I don't want to spend $2k but I also like doing things with solid proper equipment that will last, delivers efficient reliable performance, and has good warranty service..
I know what will happen if I get a single stage. I'll reload on it for a couple weeks and want a progressive.
So I just do it now.

[johnniezombie]

Maybe its just me - but for "first time" reloading (or first time anything) why would someone want to jump in for 2 grand? I think a lee single stage press and set of dies for a single caliber would be a much more prudent investment for a "first time" reloading stab.

It seems to me that money isn't an issue. OP posted that he just received $1k in reloading materials and has never pulled on a machine :-/

OP, one thing to think about as well: most of this equipment will out-live you. I have dies, presses, equipment, and powder that my father-in-law passed down to me and he inherited them from his dad.