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  • #16
    milotrain
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 4301

    Originally posted by Malthusian
    Your money would be better spent on a second progressive press
    One set up for Rifle, the other for pistol..
    Or one for large primers and the other for small primers

    1000 rounds in a couple of hours is easily doable with a just a case feeder
    I dream about a pair of 550s for just this reason. I don't like taking down my .223 match setup to make pistol plinking ammo.
    weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
    frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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    • #17
      Divernhunter
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 8753

      Dillon 650XL with case feeder. I have two. End of debate
      A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
      NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
      SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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      • #18
        kdsd731
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 663

        OK. It's obvious I'm between the 650XL or the LNL AP. Now out of those two, which one is the quicker caliber change and which one is the cheaper caliber change? Also, please read this post on another forum because he makes some really good points on why Hornady's is better than Dillon. DO you agree with his statements?
        Last edited by kdsd731; 12-28-2013, 11:26 AM.

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        • #19
          CalTeacher
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 828

          Originally posted by kdsd731
          OK. It's obvious I'm between the 650XL or the LNL AP. Now out of those two, which one is the quicker caliber change and which one is the cheaper caliber change? Also, please read this post on another forum because he makes some really good points on why Hornady's is better than Dillon. DO you agree with his statements?
          http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/278030_.html
          The op in that thread spouted off quite a bit of nonsense. Don't worry about negligible differences in times for caliber changes. If you're getting a 650 with a case feeder and bullet feeder then you'll be doing large runs of ammo production between caliber changes if you're smart. Minimize your caliber changes and maximize your volume of output per run. You're going to pay either in time or money if you want high production rates and minimal hassle for caliber changes.

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          • #20
            milotrain
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 4301

            I can't imagine a 650 with a case feeder and bullet feeder to change over faster than 15 full minutes.

            I have friends who use the LNL AP precisely because the caliber conversion is cheaper, and they seem quite happy with it.
            weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
            frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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            • #21
              Finish it
              • Oct 2008
              • 1665

              Originally posted by tiller
              Mr bullet feeder is the best on the market.... Hands down....

              That paired with a dillon press... I promise you it doesn't get any better
              I agree, I just got my Mr bullet feeder last week and mounted it on my 1050 and hands down this is the best!
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              "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
              -- Ronald Reagan

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              • #22
                Finish it
                • Oct 2008
                • 1665

                Originally posted by kdsd731
                OK. It's obvious I'm between the 650XL or the LNL AP. Now out of those two, which one is the quicker caliber change and which one is the cheaper caliber change? Also, please read this post on another forum because he makes some really good points on why Hornady's is better than Dillon. DO you agree with his statements?
                http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/278030_.html
                This guy doesn't know what he's talking about!
                If you are worried about Dealing with powder bars it's simple, just get a tool head for each caliber so don't have to change anything. It only takes me about 5 minutes to change calibers on my 650 that's including changing from small primer to large primer, case feeder plate and bullet feeder. The dies and powder measure are already setup from the last time used.
                The spent primer bin holds about 400 big deal. It's called maintenance.
                Besides who wants a gallon milk jug on the floor by your feet full of spent primers
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                "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
                -- Ronald Reagan

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                • #23
                  damndave
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 10858

                  I used to own a Hornady LNL AP...Sold it and got a Dillon XL650. Happy Happy Happy.

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