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  • 2meterB
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 1728

    Actual FPS seems very low...

    For handgun loads, I tend to be pretty close to load data.
    When I reloaded these, I weighed every single powder charge.

    .223 is another matter entirely.

    VV N530 load data:
    55gr FMJ 23.3 = 3054 fps

    My 23.3 load = 2600 fps (avg over 10 shots)
    Largest charge I used was 24.5 gr, with an average velocity of 2850 fps.

    Is that typical, given that certain variables aren't known: such as the twist or length of the test barrel?


    Given that factory ammo registered around 2777 average, I'm probably going to go with my 24.5gr load.
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    BajaJames83
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 6040

    Whats your narrel length? Sometimes theu list the test barr. Andbin my lee book its listed as a 24" barrel
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    • #3
      Raralith
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 551

      A lot of it is barrel length. My Lyman manual uses a 24" barrel which is why I get ~200 fps less out of my 16" barrel. OAL, primers, and your temperatures (unless you are using an "extreme" powder) make a slight difference too.

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      • #4
        2meterB
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 1728

        I'm using a 16" 1:9 barrel.

        A 24" barrel in books makes sense.

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        • #5
          stilly
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2009
          • 10685

          Originally posted by BajaJames83
          Whats your narrel length? Sometimes theu list the test barr. Andbin my lee book its listed as a 24" barrel
          Exactly...

          Who the hell has an AR with a 24" barrel?

          And this is why load data is really more of a guide and not exact science. Kinda.


          Sorta.

          Have you tried turning it off and back on?
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          • #6
            BruinGuy
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 1456

            Which factory load was giving you 2777? That seems really slow to me.

            Haven't used that powder (did you mean n130?) but 24 gr Varget under a 55gr bullet gives me about 2950 fps. I haven't checked factory ammo lately but I don't recall any under 3000 fps.
            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
            Keep in mind that you don't have a clue.

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            • #7
              bubbasks
              Member
              • May 2013
              • 182

              No n530 is correct. Used it and shot great with 50gr v-max out of my 24"mvp. It likes the longer barrels. Number 1 go to powder is still A2460 for 55 and below and A2520 for 69 and up.Haven't found one i like better yet.

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              • #8
                2meterB
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 1728

                Remington UMC is the 2777 fps ones I shot. Fac ammo.

                Weird thing about Rem UMC factory ammo.. I've had a couple case failures (not catastrophic) and a few with popped primers.

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                • #9
                  Divernhunter
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2010
                  • 8753

                  Not all 223 ammo is shot out of an AR. Much of it gets shot out of bolt action rifles which have 22-24" barrels. Some is shot out of single shot rifles with 22-24" barrel and some is shot out of pistols with 10-15" barrels.

                  This may come as a surprise to some people but there are more than AR/AK rifles out there
                  A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
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