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  • CK_32
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2010
    • 14369

    Missested primer? Danger?

    Last night I was in a role and was finishing my 223 loads and priming the last 300 of my batch.

    Anyways I got in a grooves and was priming with good time and one felt weird. Took a look at it and say I seated one sideways. Deprimed it and saw one side flattened out slightly.

    I reseated it and it looks like it rounded it self out again. It's not a perfect fit but I was expecting it to have a gap but it looks like it is seated. My question is is it dangerous to shoot this? I didn't take a picture so obviously you guys can't speak on my spacific primer but danger in shooting a not properly seated primer?


    Only thing I've read about blown primers is it can jam actions with the ejected primer. But I feel it could damage a rifle or be a little more dangerous than that. Can anything happen to me or the rifle or is a semi seated or non perfect primer just a chance of a jam with no danger of damage to me or the rifle.



    I will post a picture of the primer when I get home so you guys can say yay or nay.

    But this just got me asking is there any danger in a bad primer or pocket? I feel no but then again yea.


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  • #2
    kcheung2
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 4387

    The primer costs 4 cents. It's probably fine, but why take the risk?
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    • #3
      mark501w
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1699

      That's part of the sealing process containing that 50,000+ psi replace it.

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      • #4
        krwada
        Senior Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Jun 2013
        • 1457

        When in doubt ... Throw it out. Plus, we are only talking about $0.035 or thereabouts here. Better to be paranoid, than losing something of value, (firearm parts, body parts).

        But that is just me. I tend to get paranoid about anything related to safety.

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19404

          I have seen ruptured primers burn and damage a bolt face. This was on a 50 BMG so you are loading 215-225 grains of powder.

          A small hole under 50-60,000 psi is similar to a jet engine or cutting torch.

          I would treat it as any questionable component and discard it.
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          • #6
            JagerDog
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            • May 2011
            • 14586

            Originally posted by hermosabeach
            I have seen ruptured primers burn and damage a bolt face. This was on a 50 BMG so you are loading 215-225 grains of powder.

            A small hole under 50-60,000 psi is similar to a jet engine or cutting torch.

            I would treat it as any questionable component and discard it.
            ^^^^^this. You won't hurt yourself (assuming it goes bang), but escaping gases aren't good for your bolt face.
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            • #7
              TimRB
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 920

              Whenever I get a primer that's missested, I just buflattle it.

              Tim

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              • #8
                fifT7
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Nov 2011
                • 700

                Originally posted by TimRB
                Whenever I get a primer that's missested, I just buflattle it.

                Tim
                Someone had to say it. I thought I was going to learn something new.

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                • #9
                  CK_32
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14369

                  Yea I got home and deprimed it.

                  It had a flat edge still with a gap. Would have led to issues. Just trashed it.

                  Thought it looked better last night. Stop glad I asked I only thought the primer would unseat. Didn't know it could torch the bolt face. Good to know
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                  • #10
                    Whiterabbit
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 7586

                    Would have fired just fine. your bolt face CAN tolerate that... but the honest truth is its not the same kind of wear as, say, top strap erosion of a revolver or throat erosion under firing. It wears out pretty quick.

                    your boltface eventually looks like this:



                    It does NOT take thousands of rounds to get like this.

                    That being said, if you ever have a brain fart or a weak primer and gas DOES escape the primer pocket (And you will know it when it happens, by the way), don't worry. Just make a note and keep an eye on it. There are precious few events that cause catastrophic failure in firearms, thank God.

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                    • #11
                      bruce381
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2452

                      ""I reseated it and it looks like it rounded it self out again. It's not a perfect fit but I was expecting it to have a gap but it looks like it is seated. My question is is it dangerous to shoot this? I didn't take a picture so obviously you guys can't speak on my spacific primer but danger in shooting a not properly seated primer?""


                      I never re use primers for 3 cents I toss them, to ME it is not worth the chance that they will hang fire or NOT fire when needed.

                      Rember a primer has a solid "priming pellet" under the anvil, it is ment to be compressed between the anvil and the primer cup by the firing pin, this makes tha boom.

                      IF it gets smashed or cracked if MAY not compress and fire correctly if at all, for that resson I throw away any I de prime.

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                      • #12
                        mark501w
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1699

                        This should be a no brainer. You have to contain that gas , let's say you have a bolt gun if that gas runs through your bolt it will polish your teeth for you.

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                        • #13
                          stilly
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 10685

                          Originally posted by CK_32
                          Last night I was in a role and was finishing my 223 loads and priming the last 300 of my batch.

                          Anyways I got in a grooves and was priming with good time and one felt weird. Took a look at it and say I seated one sideways. Deprimed it and saw one side flattened out slightly.

                          I reseated it and it looks like it rounded it self out again. It's not a perfect fit but I was expecting it to have a gap but it looks like it is seated. My question is is it dangerous to shoot this? I didn't take a picture so obviously you guys can't speak on my spacific primer but danger in shooting a not properly seated primer?


                          Only thing I've read about blown primers is it can jam actions with the ejected primer. But I feel it could damage a rifle or be a little more dangerous than that. Can anything happen to me or the rifle or is a semi seated or non perfect primer just a chance of a jam with no danger of damage to me or the rifle.



                          I will post a picture of the primer when I get home so you guys can say yay or nay.

                          But this just got me asking is there any danger in a bad primer or pocket? I feel no but then again yea.


                          Thanks
                          Like everyone else, you should prolly toss it, OR, shoot it FIRST and inspect the case afterwards.
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                          • #14
                            gunboat
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3288

                            I am with white rabbit -- no worry --
                            Primer is seated against bottom of pocket -
                            gas pressure will expand primer shell to fit side of pocket ---
                            Too much overthinking -
                            But, for four cents, make yourself comfortable -

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                            • #15
                              bruceflinch
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 40127

                              Originally posted by TimRB
                              Whenever I get a primer that's missested, I just buflattle it.

                              Tim
                              That's quite a command of the English language ya got there....
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