max load 30-30

[mark501w]

every gun ,every component, is a rule unto itself , that's why you work up.

[kielbasavw]

Powder I have is just as old as the book ;-)

[mark501w]

My books are all over the place it doesn't matter how old they are. & how old the powder is doesn't make any difference ether,so long as it's not looking funny.

[Bumslie]

My books are all over the place it doesn't matter how old they are. & how old the powder is doesn't make any difference ether,so long as it's not looking funny.

If you're using new powder and old data it matters.

2400 is an excellent example of the formula changing.

[mark501w]

never noticed it. I'd get my old books out & my new books out & extrapolate a starting load from I'd watch the gun & brass from there.

[kielbasavw]

I now must invest in a bullet puller... didn't wanna buy one but guess I gotta fork out the big bucks

[mark501w]

We all got'em sometimes more than one.

[Dark Mod]

I doubt it would blow up your levergun, but i wouldnt risk it. Max charge is almost never the most accurate anyway, so i never bother loading that high.

[mark501w]

You got your ladder built as you guys call it, move up towards the max see what happens . If you start seeing the primer flattening or the extraction starts becoming noticable watch out! Single load the long ones if you get that far.Your problem is that you've got some pretty good jumps between rungs , so things could happen fast from one weight to another. .30-30 is kind of wierd you have to push them a little or they shoot into the ground at 100yrds.

[kielbasavw]

i was just copying the loads my book listed... guess that was all wrong

[GeoffLinder]

I am doing some ladder loads, and got a question about the max loads I did.

Hornady 150g round nose
Imr 3031
Trim length 2.030

I did 4 of each 28.7, 30, 31.2, 32.5, and 33.8 (max)

Everything loaded great with a nice crimp and overall length of 2.550. Except for the max loads which I believe bullet hit powder and won't let it seat all the way. I got two rounds 2.551, one round 2.552, and last is 2.555.

Book calls for max length 2.550, the shorter rounds I tapped the case so all the powder will settle, the longest I did not do it...

Is this normal, are they ok to shoot (winchester 1894)? Do I need to tear them apart.

And yes I weighted it all out by hand scale read the exact same everytime (used trickler)

Workups should start start low and go up by 2-4 tenths of a grain NOT 2-3 grains between each charge weight batch. Discard all above 30 grains and run them at 28, 28.4, 28.8, 29.2, 29.6 and 30 at the very most. Might even consider starting this at 27.0 grains instead of 28.0

Watch the primers for flattening and smearing, if in doubt about this, have someone who is an experienced reloader go to the range with you for your testing.

IME, compressed loads in 30-30 are not a good thing to see, it is a generous case and you should not be near compression in any safe charge weight range IMHO

[jwc]

I have had excellent results with:

Winchester WB30PP150 Power-Point 30-30 bullets, .308 diameter, 150gr flat nose
Case length 2.039, maximum COAL 2.550
29.5gr IMR 3031 powder

[fast54vw]

Yup the big bucks

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/630146/rcbs-powr-pull-impact-bullet-puller

I now must invest in a bullet puller... didn't wanna buy one but guess I gotta fork out the big bucks

[mark501w]

.30-30 being a old time lower pressure round won't show anything on primers before stressing the action watch for heavy extraction first.

[LynnJr]

Kielbasavw
The powder varies very little from today to over 50 years ago.If it varies a lot they give it a new name/number designation.A quick phone call to Hodgdon would clear that myth up.

The older loading manuals weren't typed up by lawyers like the newer books are and the reason your seeing such a wide powder variation is do to the seating depth and the chambers freebore.The longer you seat the bullet the larger the pressure vessel becomes and the more powder you can safely use.

I wouldn't use any loads from this forum yet one of my posts was deleted because someone thought it was too hot and would endanger a new shooter.This is not a very precision minded website it is mainly AR's and AK's and alot of younger shooters.I would stick to the manuals but pay close attention to the seating depths or COAL's