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  • Dsal_13
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 782

    Soo noob question!?

    I have read 2 books the Lynman reloading handbook and the Lee modern reloading... I am getting into reloading and teaching myself. so here is the question..

    I am gathering all my supplies to start reloading 223 remington... I bought some 22cal .224 Hornady 53gr Vmax bullets. In my books I have recipes for

    40gr vmax
    60gr vmax

    Can I use one of those recipes? or where would I be able to find loading data for the 53gr vmax? I am confused in this step of the process.. please keep in mind that I have never reloaded before and I brand new at this.

    Thanks for the help
    "An armed society is a polite society"
  • #2
    Dark Mod
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 4284

    Use the recipe for the actual bullet when you can. let me do some quick googling and ill see what i can find

    edit: Looks like hornady 8 has the data you need on page 164.

    If you cant find data for your specific bullet, a similar bullet would work fine. The hodgdon website has 53 gr data for IMR, Hodgdon, and Winchester powders.

    Attached is a picture of the appropriate page: it lists the same data for several 53 grn bullets.

    Last edited by Dark Mod; 07-30-2013, 4:56 PM.

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    • #3
      Dsal_13
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 782

      Originally posted by Dark Mod
      Use the recipe for the actual bullet. let me do some quick googling and ill see what i can find

      sweet thank you sir
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      • #4
        SacJDog
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 168

        Get the Hornady reloading manual, I just bought it and it lists all their bullets with item number. I verified the 52gr load and just loaded my first batch of 223.
        I would not use the 60gr or 40gr load for a 53 gr bullet. Also consider joining you local calguns reloading club. I joined my local chapter and the collective knowledge is awesome.

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        • #5
          BenHa
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 838

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          • #6
            Dsal_13
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 782

            WOW Thank all you guys!! I appreciate it! I am going to have to get my hands on this hornady book also! but thanks a million again so helpful! I am glad I got into this.. with such a nice community to help when in need its awesome!

            Thanks!
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            • #7
              armyguy209
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 335

              I don't know if you have a chrono, but I loaded up some 55gr vmax. I went by the Hornady manual, and I also tried some via the Hodgdon site because I am using H335. They are way different between the two as far as powder weight goes. Mine fired fine with the Hornady suggested loads, but I still havent got a chance to go for accuracy. I am waiting to get a magnetospeed to see which manual is closer to being accurate. If you have a chrono, let us know how it matches up with FPS on the Hornady loads.

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              • #8
                Fjold
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 22915

                You can also go to Hodgdon.com and go the their "Data Center", accept the terms and conditions and from there you can access their reloading data for all the Hodgdon, Winchester and IMR powders.
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                • #9
                  Dsal_13
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 782

                  Originally posted by Fjold
                  You can also go to Hodgdon.com and go the their "Data Center", accept the terms and conditions and from there you can access their reloading data for all the Hodgdon, Winchester and IMR powders.
                  Yea I went there ealier.. that site helps a lot Thank you!
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                  • #10
                    BruinGuy
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1456

                    From one noob to another, the investment in manuals will pay off.

                    I've got the Hornady, Lyman, Speer, and Lee and compare data before any load. I've found already that often the Lee data can be pretty far from the other manuals. As I get more brands of bullets, I'll acquire those manuals, too. The powder company websites are also very useful. I'm cross-referencing at least 4 sources for determining my starting load.

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                    • #11
                      Germz
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 4691

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                      • #12
                        Dsal_13
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 782

                        Originally posted by BruinGuy
                        From one noob to another, the investment in manuals will pay off.

                        I've got the Hornady, Lyman, Speer, and Lee and compare data before any load. I've found already that often the Lee data can be pretty far from the other manuals. As I get more brands of bullets, I'll acquire those manuals, too. The powder company websites are also very useful. I'm cross-referencing at least 4 sources for determining my starting load.

                        I haven't blown myself up...yet!
                        Haha thanks.. yea I think I am going to do that.. gonna get myself the hornady one and look into the rcbs and others i can find
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                        • #13
                          Enfield47
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 6385

                          I'm new to reloading as well and I really like the Hornady book too. I also have the Lyman and the Lee manuals and the download posted above for Sierra .223. I went with the Sierra manual for my .223 because it used the powder I currently have IMR 4064 (the Lyman did too but I like the way the Sierra manual had the different charges listed). It worked great for creating a test ladder.

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                          • #14
                            stilly
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 10685

                            Here is a question I have and want to clarify.

                            If OP had NO load data for a 53gr bullet and NONE of us here also had it, would it be okay to use load data for a 55gr bullet and just work up a load?

                            I thought I read that the answer was YES according to the BoLee but I want to see what others think. I have done that with other loads and I have tried to keep it at 10% or less in weight differences and I only go up in weight, not down.
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                            • #15
                              Cheep
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1313

                              Yes, you can use data for the next heavier bullet, but overall length must also be considered.
                              Originally posted by NOMADCHRIS
                              your asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!

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