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  • spag
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 69

    Boxed 1938 German 8mm amo.

    Can anyone give me a idea on exactly what I have here? It is stamped on the box "Waffen ss Dermaitung?? It's very hard to make out the lettering. Any idea what these would be worth? Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Sal
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    FLIGHT762
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 3072

    You have some German made 8X56R ammo.

    There is a bit of this ammo around. As far as the SS stamp and the Himmler stamp on the box, I believe these are fake/phony stamps placed recently on the box by some unscrupulous seller trying to pass off the ammo as some super rare SS marked ammo.

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    • #3
      spag
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 69

      Originally posted by FLIGHT762
      You have some German made 8X56R ammo.

      There is a bit of this ammo around. As far as the SS stamp and the Himmler stamp on the box, I believe these are fake/phony stamps placed recently on the box by some unscrupulous seller trying to pass off the ammo as some super rare SS marked ammo.


      Thanks.

      Sal

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      • #4
        CEDaytonaRydr
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 4141

        I kinda need some of that, and I really need the clip. Let me know if you want to sell.

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        • #5
          mark501w
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1699

          Why would it be rimmed?

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          • #6
            CEDaytonaRydr
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 4141

            Originally posted by mark501w
            Why would it be rimmed?
            ...because its for Steyr Mannlicher rifles, not 8mm Mausers.

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            • #7
              Swagman00
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 4149

              Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
              ...because its for Steyr Mannlicher rifles, not 8mm Mausers.
              You'll notice the 8x56 will have a rim around the base of the cartridge. That particular round will not fit in the Mauser magazine if you try to put it in there.

              The pill is also a .330 OD for 8x56 compared to .323 for 8x57.

              Be careful.
              Anyway...here's a dearth of reasoning to ponder: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Guns

              Originally posted by movie zombie
              and you guys wonder why women are fed up with bad behavior?!

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              • #8
                mark501w
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1699

                I understand rimmed& rimless I was just curious as to why there would be
                a Nazi GI case that was rimmed?

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                • #9
                  nubrun
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 998

                  Originally posted by mark501w
                  I understand rimmed& rimless I was just curious as to why there would be
                  a Nazi GI case that was rimmed?
                  Numbers of these rifles also saw use in World War II, particularly by second line, reservist, and partisan units in Romania, Yugoslavia, Italy and to lesser degree, Germany.
                  Got this off of wiki, but if Germany issued the steyr to second line reservists it would make sense.

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                  • #10
                    mark501w
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1699

                    Got it!

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                    • #11
                      E Michael
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 2513

                      I would also like to buy some if you want to sell, sending pm.

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                      • #12
                        stilly
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10685

                        So in other words it is just old cheap ammo that someone decided to bingo stamp to make it authentic...

                        Thank you. NEXT...
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                        • #13
                          knucklehead0202
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 4087

                          yep, 38 Austrian manufacture 8x56r Hungarian Mannlicher for m95 mannlicher rifles converted to the "S" patronen. early ones were in 8x50r but nevertheless, I would guess the SS stamps are BS. I have a bunch of that ammo i'm hanging on to as I imagine it will increase in value. clips can be found on ebay and Prvi Partizan now sells loaded ammo, brass, and bullets to reload for this rifle which is what I would recommend, rather than shooting up corrosive and potentially valuable old ammo. reloading for this round takes some work, i'm finding, as it's very sensitive to powder, load density, etc.

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