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  • #31
    Divernhunter
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2010
    • 8753

    Bumslie---If the expander is too big IT needs fixed. Crimping is just a wrong fix for the problem.
    Kind of like if your engine chucks a rod out the side of the block patching the block does not fix the (real) problem.

    My Dillon dies do not have that problem and they are newer one if that matters.
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    • #32
      Bumslie
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      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2011
      • 5358

      Originally posted by Divernhunter
      Bumslie---If the expander is too big IT needs fixed. Crimping is just a wrong fix for the problem.
      Kind of like if your engine chucks a rod out the side of the block patching the block does not fix the (real) problem.

      My Dillon dies do not have that problem and they are newer one if that matters.
      Please do me a favor then and go buy a lee pace setter 223 kit. You'll see they designed it that way.
      Last edited by Bumslie; 07-02-2013, 2:12 PM.
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      • #33
        the led farmer
        Member
        • May 2011
        • 194

        Need help with 223 reloading

        Originally posted by Bumslie
        Please do me a favor then and go buy a lee pace setter 223 kit. You'll see they designed it that way.
        In Richard Lee's book Modern Reloading, 2nd Edition he address neck size for proper press fit of a bullet, HIS opinion (there are many others, open to debate, but this is his) is that a properly sized neck should .001 smaller than the diameter of the bullet (p. 26 and 46).

        Taking this into consideration I measured all three of my Ez Expander/Decapper 's for .223 (broke a few decapping pins). Surprisingly enough they measured .223, which coincides with being .001 smaller than a .224 bullet. Since Lee wrote the book, and designed the Pacesetter dies/expander i have drawn the conclusion that he designed the Ez Expander/Decapper to be .001 smaller than the diameter to provide what he considers proper neck size for a preferred press fit of a bullet. If your Ez X is larger (or smaller) than this I would consider it to be a defect and request a new one of the proper diameter from Lee Precision. (Or resize yourself if its oversized)

        So I am not sure what you mean when you say the dies are designed "that way"
        Last edited by the led farmer; 07-06-2013, 11:33 AM.

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        • #34
          Divernhunter
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2010
          • 8753

          ^ +1 I do not need to buy anymore dies. I have better dies than lee. I have RCBS(2 sets) and Dillon. Been reloading too long and with too many different cartridges to know that if neck tension will not hold the bullet then the expander button is too big. Stop arguing and fix the problem and stop making excuses or band-aid fixes. It only shows your level of knowledge in reloading. Which is clearly lacking. OR continue to do it your way but do not try to tell people that is the correct way.
          My last post on this thread.
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