Need help with 223 reloading

[Hsteven916]

Do I have to bellor flare the 223 brass casing??... Is there a dies from Dillon ???

[Dark Mod]

no need to flare the case.

[Colt562]

no need to flare the case.

Agreed, no need to flare the case, just chamfer and deburr.

Especially with flat base bullets

[JagerDog]

No such operation on bottleneck rifle cartridges. Do want to chamfer after trimming though.

[Hsteven916]

Thanks!!

[Divernhunter]

Newbie. Where are you located? Maybe someone can help walk you thru the steps. If you had the Lyman #49(or most other) reloading manual and read it you would have your answer. The manual will do much to make the reloading process easier IF you read it.

[Germz]

Someone dropped the hammer on OP after only 5 posts? a new record.

[Divernhunter]

Not dropped the hammer. Trying to help but no location. Also if he had read a manual he would have known that bottleneck rifle cases do not get belled/flared.
Too many people jump into reloading with no knowledge, not reading a manual and no location so someone can personally help them and answer the many questions they have.
PS You are a newbie also to the site. If you stay around long enough you will understand what I am saying also.

[GeoffLinder]

Understandable question if the OP has only loaded straightwall pistol cartridges before.

That said, reading a good reloading manual will tell you everything you need to know.

[jetman624]

I believe if you use the sizing die from dillon you also must use the crimp die from dillon, as their sizing die does flare the case a little bit.

I thought that would make it easier to load a flat base bullet-- is that not correct?

[tiller]

I believe if you use the sizing die from dillon you also must use the crimp die from dillon, as their sizing die does flare the case a little bit.

I thought that would make it easier to load a flat base bullet-- is that not correct?

No sizing die will flare a case any brand or cartridge

[jetman624]

Maybe flare is not the correct term... but I was pretty sure there was something specific to the dillon sizing die in regards to the neck of the case.

[GeoffLinder]

Maybe flare is not the correct term... but I was pretty sure there was something specific to the dillon sizing die in regards to the neck of the case.

Nope, incorrect data. I use Dillon size dies for single stage work too and I almost never crimp any .223 ammo (or any bottleneck rifle case for that matter). The Dillon size die works exactly the same as any other mfgrs' full length ones do.

Additionally, the Dillon powder die does not flare the case either. It is only there so the case mouth can be used to operate the powder measure charge bar when the ram is raised, it does nothing to the case mouth unlike powder dies for pistol loading.

If you are loading flat base bullets you need to add a chamfer to the inside of the case mouth with a reamer or use a case trimmer that does this like a Gracey or Giraud. A major reason why I like boat tail bullets for all rifle cartridges whenever possible.

[Bumslie]

I believe if you use the sizing die from dillon you also must use the crimp die from dillon, as their sizing die does flare the case a little bit.

I thought that would make it easier to load a flat base bullet-- is that not correct?

You're correct that you must use their crimp die with sizing die, but incorrect in assuming it is "flaring".

Their expander ball is one thousands bigger than a conventional die set, so you need to use their crimp die to properly hold the bullet in place. This is the same case with lee pacesetter die sets as well.

[jetman624]

You're correct that you must use their crimp die with sizing die, but incorrect in assuming it is "flaring".

Their expander ball is one thousands bigger than a conventional die set, so you need to use their crimp die to properly hold the bullet in place. This is the same case with lee pacesetter die sets as well.

Does this expander ball make it any easier to load flat bottom bullets?