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  • kengotit
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 938

    im guessing i cant shoot these.

    I started loading new recipe for 40s&w now i came across
    these bent brass ;(

    im guessing i over crimped these,,..causing to bent in the middle of brass.
    and probably aren't safe to shoot.


    thought id share my mistake so other wont make the same.

    I have a Jar full of "mistake or unshootable" loads i reloaded in
    the past year or so NOW i need a bullet puller but im too cheap to buy
    one maybe one day ill buy one.
    Last edited by kengotit; 06-10-2013, 4:57 PM.
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  • #2
    Colt562
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2012
    • 5271

    I sure wouldnt
    Originally posted by bruceflinch
    Tis Better, to be Overworked & Underpaid,
    Than Oversexed & Underlaid...

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    • #3
      Cummins_Powered
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 548

      Originally posted by kengotit
      I started loading new recipe for 40s&w now i cam across
      these bent brass ;(

      im guessing i over crimped these,,..causing to bent in the middle of brass.
      and probably aren't safe to shoot.


      thought id share my mistake so other wont make the same.

      I have a Jar full of "mistake or unshootable" loads i reloaded in
      the past year or so NOW i need a bullet puller but im too cheap to buy
      one maybe one day ill buy one.

      I have a container full of whoops bullets also, and like you im too cheap to buy a bullet puller. Someday, and the sooner the better while i still remember which powder is in which bullet (aside from the ones i forgot to put powder in )
      Now we know!

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      • #4
        kengotit
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 938

        Originally posted by Cummins_Powered
        I have a container full of whoops bullets also, and like you im too cheap to buy a bullet puller. Someday, and the sooner the better while i still remember which powder is in which bullet (aside from the ones i forgot to put powder in )
        I only used 3 powders for pistol its either Universal, hp-38 and win231

        hp-38 and win231 are basically the same.

        also bullet puller isn't really available locally where im from, I dont want to deal shipping for a $15 item
        Keep Calm and Carry On

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        • #5
          johnny1290
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1596

          You know, pliers are the universal bullet puller.

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          • #6
            HighLander51
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 5144

            Actually self correcting because it sure doesn't look that bulge would chamber the round anyway.

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            • #7
              EL_NinO619
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 1519

              I would say learning how to properly adjust your dies is the first step. 2nd is a case gauge, that would tell you they are a NO NO besides the obvious. Buy the Hornady hammer, it lets you put in and out the cases without unscrewing the entire cap.
              se carga el diablo de la pistola...
              .223, .25acp, 25-20win, 9mm, 38spl/.357, 10mm .308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 45acp, .475 Wildey mag
              On 2 Hornady LnL AP & Dillon Super 1050

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              • #8
                Abenaki
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1075

                You can buy a case gauge if you want to. But, there is no need to.
                Use the chamber of the barrel to gauge the ammo.
                Assuming that you have a semi auto..


                Take care
                Abenaki
                "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, December 1993

                I'd rather be a Boomer, than generation crybaby!

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                • #9
                  JagerDog
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2011
                  • 14606

                  On semiauto cases you only need to straighten out the mouth. If you do want to crimp semi's, get a taper crimp die.

                  I've buckled a few magnum revolver cases.
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                  • #10
                    M27
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 871

                    don't shoot them, they probably won't even chamber

                    WAY TO MUCH CRIMP!

                    you need to also pull one of your other rounds and make sure you haven't deformed the bullets. If they are FMJ you are probably fine, but accuracy may suffer. If they were plated you may have cut through the jacket which can cause problems.
                    I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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                    • #11
                      EL_NinO619
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1519

                      Originally posted by Abenaki
                      You can buy a case gauge if you want to. But, there is no need to.
                      Use the chamber of the barrel to gauge the ammo.
                      Assuming that you have a semi auto..


                      Take care
                      Abenaki
                      I use my barrel when loading new rounds, or testing OAL with bullets like the Hornady XTP. But I just don't find it very convenient to break down a gun to check my brass and loaded rounds. Plus I don't like case lube in my chamber.
                      se carga el diablo de la pistola...
                      .223, .25acp, 25-20win, 9mm, 38spl/.357, 10mm .308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 45acp, .475 Wildey mag
                      On 2 Hornady LnL AP & Dillon Super 1050

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                      • #12
                        kengotit
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 938

                        Yeap no need for a case gauge, i use the barrel im loading for.

                        those were my first 10 rounds that i loaded in the specific recipe.
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                        • #13
                          2nd Shot
                          Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 384

                          You probably already know this, but my guess is that:

                          1.) You're using your seating and crimping die to do both seating and crimping in one operation, and

                          2.) You have way too much crimp, causing the case mouth to bite into the bullet before you're done seating the bullet. Applying force = crushed brass.

                          OR

                          3.) Insufficient flare at the case mouth (doesn't take much, though)

                          The most surefire, though more labor intensive way is to screw the bullet seater all the way down, seat all rounds to length, then screw the seater all the way up, and then crimp all rounds. If on a progressive, use separate seat/crimp dies.

                          I know, I know, you can seat/crimp in one, but you gotta lighten up on the crimp so it just comes in as the bullet comes to rest. A little to early and the bullet will seize in the case before it's done seating.

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                          • #14
                            TacticalPlinker
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 2532

                            #1. Don't shoot those rounds, or any like them. When in doubt, DON'T SHOOT IT!

                            #2. Invest in a proper bullet puller. So you can at least save the bullet, and the primer/powder too if you're careful.
                            ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                            • #15
                              uhlan1
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 6217

                              "I have a Jar full of "mistake or unshootable" loads i reloaded in
                              the past year or so NOW i need a bullet puller but im too cheap to buy
                              one maybe one day ill buy one."

                              You're doing better than me if after a year you only collected one jar full without pulling. I have the Hornady collet puller and it has easily paid for itself and like it a lot more than the "hammer of oops".

                              And no, no way would I even attempt to shoot those. Not worth it.
                              "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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