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  • gsc3zny
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 573

    Trouble finding load data

    I am a brand new loader attempting my first load. First of all, the Lee Pro 100 is a b*tch to set up. That out of the way. I am loading Berrys plated .38 bullets with Hodgdon Clays. I cannot find any load data in my Lee guide to reloading, and when I go to the Hodgdon website, I just get truned over to some website that has data for many different manufacures. Clays is on there, but not for my plated bullets. Only for wadcuters or xtp. BTW they are 158 grain. There must be more and better info, or shlould I try another reloading manual?
  • #2
    RugerNo1
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 1644

    Use the Hodgdon website's data for cast lead as starting loads for plated bullets and work up to where you want to be from there.

    Or, email Berry's Bullets for load data.
    Dane

    For the Learned Rifleman

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    • #3
      gsc3zny
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 573

      I will have to go to berrys, I guess, When I go to Hodgdons, the link leads me to a page full of load date, but my bullets are not on it

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      • #4
        RugerNo1
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 1644

        From Berry's website.

        Originally posted by http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx
        Plated bullets occupy a position between cast bullets and jacketed bullets. They are soft lead, but have a hard outer shell on them. When loading plated bullets we have found best results using low- to mid-range jacketed data in the load manual. You must use data for a bullet that has the same weight and profile as the one you are loading. Do not exceed mid-range loads. Do not use magnum loads.

        Load Data:

        Currently published load data is limited to some calibers by Accurate, Western Powders and Hodgdon. We are working with these companies to get data published for all of our bullets.



        We recommend using hard cast load data or start with mid-range jacketed data. Make sure data is below 1250fps unless you are using a Thick-Plated bullet that we list a higher max velocity for like the 9mm 124gr HBRN-TP that can be shot to 1500fps in open class guns like a .38 Super. Keep in mind that since our plated bullet has the same pressure curve as a hard cast bullet, the published cast data will be very close to what you will get with our plated bullets. If you use Jacketed data with our plated bullets you can get from 5% - 8% increase in velocity using that data.




        Other than the data from Western and Accurate for the 9mm, .40S&W and Hodgdon .40S&W there is no printed data available.

        For further qauestions you can email sales@berrysmfg.com
        Dane

        For the Learned Rifleman

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        • #5
          shooterbill
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 1096

          I haven't had any problems loading plated bullets using jacketed data. This question gets asked all the time.

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          • #6
            mark501w
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 1699

            Use the weight as a guideline, remember your loading for your gun. Watch for leading & pressure .

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            • #7
              stilly
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2009
              • 10685

              Originally posted by RugerNo1
              Use the Hodgdon website's data for cast lead as starting loads for plated bullets and work up to where you want to be from there.

              Or, email Berry's Bullets for load data.
              +1

              I run all jacketed bullets the same as cast lead though so I would find a WEIGHT that is very similar, either the same or slightly heavier and give it a try... But 158gn for 38 is pretty common.
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              • #8
                gsc3zny
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 573

                So if I was to use the load data from my Lee guide to reloading for 158 gr lead bullet, using hodgdon clays, I would be ok with there loads? BTW for Clays it is 2.8-3.1 gr

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                • #9
                  bruce381
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2452

                  Yes Maybe you should also read a few loading manuals and start low to mid range . Go slow verify what you are doing and understand what you are doing its not hard but you have to pay attention not yelling just offering advice.

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                  • #10
                    bruce381
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2452

                    alos do not laod more than a dozen till you fire them and verify they function fine than you can stockpile

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                    • #11
                      gsc3zny
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 573

                      Originally posted by bruce381
                      Yes Maybe you should also read a few loading manuals and start low to mid range . Go slow verify what you are doing and understand what you are doing its not hard but you have to pay attention not yelling just offering advice.
                      I just ordered the Lyman 49th mANUAL

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                      • #12
                        gsc3zny
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 573

                        Originally posted by bruce381
                        alos do not laod more than a dozen till you fire them and verify they function fine than you can stockpile
                        That was my plan, thx

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                        • #13
                          gsc3zny
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 573

                          Originally posted by bruce381
                          Yes Maybe you should also read a few loading manuals and start low to mid range . Go slow verify what you are doing and understand what you are doing its not hard but you have to pay attention not yelling just offering advice.
                          Not taken as yelling. This is not as easy as I thought! thx

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