Dillon Super Swager 600 Question

[ndllana]

I have a bucket of mixed 223 brass. Some have crimps and some do not. Instead of going through each brass to separate the crimped from non crimped, I was just going to run them through the swager.

Will the non-crimped brass get ruined by the swager or is it okay to just swage all of them.

What is the correct adjustment to swage the brass?

[stevec223]

600

i would separate the crimped from non-crimped... i would not swagge un-crimped brass as it would only open up primer pockets and shorten there reloading life....with most brands of crimped cases you can find the right (least amount of crimp removal for consistant primer seating) setting on the 600 on a average... as all different manufactures cases have different web depths... set up your dillon to the headstamp (l.c., imi,or ?)that you have the most of...ck that set-up on the other brands and adjust if necessary..i find you have to jiggle the brass to start the swagger in the center of the case--- or else i can figure 8 a primer pocket like no-one else !!!! cheers..

[ExtremeX]

I always sort my brass before swaging... (I sort LC brass by year too)

Correct adjustment... since the case web can vary from manufacture and even year the case was manufactured, you may need to fine tune depending on the case.

Keep adjusting the swager until it accepts a primer... I do this process for for each batch of sorted cases.

I keep, load, and shoot all my ammo in batches based on headstamp so I don't have to worry about sorting and swaging down the road.

[klewan]

If you used a countersink in a cordless drill, you wouldn't have to sort anything. Just pick it up, touch it to the tool for 2 seconds and do the next one...

[tiller]

If you used a countersink in a cordless drill, you wouldn't have to sort anything. Just pick it up, touch it to the tool for 2 seconds and do the next one...

Do not ruin your brass... Don't be a cheapo and buy the right tool for the right job

[Bill Steele]

I always sort my brass before swaging... (I sort LC brass by year too)

Correct adjustment... since the case web can vary from manufacture and even year the case was manufactured, you may need to fine tune depending on the case.

Keep adjusting the swager until it accepts a primer... I do this process for for each batch of sorted cases.

I keep, load, and shoot all my ammo in batches based on headstamp so I don't have to worry about sorting and swaging down the road.

+1

Anyone who doesn't sort their brass by head stamp (at least) is just making stuff that goes bang.

I always have to laugh when I see some guy at the range doing meticulous ladders using mixed head stamp brass. Invariably someone will come over and inquire about reloading and the guy with the mixed head stamp brass will usually make a comment on how by reloading your own you can make much better ammo than you can buy from the factory. At this point I am usually doing this inside.

[mls204]

+2 to ExtremeX's post.

Sort your brass once. Load and keep them separate thereafter.

I also sort and keep separate by times fired within the headstamp & brass year so I know when I need to anneal....and I'm not even set up to anneal yet.

It may seem a bit OCD but for the majority of us, that's exactly why we got into reloading in the first place: more control over our ammo and thus over our groups.

Wait til you start weight sorting brass and bullets...or using Sharpie markers to mark ammo.

[klewan]

Do not ruin your brass... Don't be a cheapo and buy the right tool for the right job

They been selling crimp reamers for over 40 years, they came up with the swagging tools because there's a large percentage of the population that equates $$$ with quality.....you really should try the reaming. It works and the tool is only $5. Unlike dropping $120 on the Dillion.

[LGB Loader]

Perhaps a bit harshly put, Mr Steele, but I do agree that you should ALWAYS sort your brass by head stamp for all rifle calibers.

If it needs reaming/swaging, do it. If it don't, don't do it.

LGB

[Bill Steele]

Perhaps a bit harshly put, Mr Steele, but I do agree that you should ALWAYS sort your brass by head stamp for all rifle calibers.

If it needs reaming/swaging, do it. If it don't, don't do it.

LGB

Tough but fair..

[CSACANNONEER]

Do not ruin your brass... Don't be a cheapo and buy the right tool for the right job

Lol, I own a Dillion 600, various swaging dies and several different crimp reamers. I use the reamers and I like using the reamers and contersinks the best. But hey, your inexperienced opinion is your's to have.

[tiller]

They been selling crimp reamers for over 40 years, they came up with the swagging tools because there's a large percentage of the population that equates $$$ with quality.....you really should try the reaming. It works and the tool is only $5. Unlike dropping $120 on the Dillion.

Yes they sell them.... But when you guys tell new reloaders to go buy a counter sink bit and they slap it on there drill... They go crazy and remove half the primer pocket ruining brass!


I know they CAN work.... But swaging is ideal if you know how to set up your swager properly.

[Zamble]

I found a problem with my pistol brass. I have a 1050, and I had a problem with a few primers getting destroyed. I realized the brass had crimped primers as well. Now I just leave the swage set at the same depth for all my 9mm brass.

[the86d]

I used to use the Lyman reamer, got sick of that, then started using a step-bit to ream... it was a pain.

I had enough for the Dillon Super Swager 600 and I have been a happier camper, and I have also used for range-pickup 9mm brass with crimps. It works GREAT!

[CSACANNONEER]

Yes they sell them.... But when you guys tell new reloaders to go buy a counter sink bit and they slap it on there drill... They go crazy and remove half the primer pocket ruining brass!


I know they CAN work.... But swaging is ideal if you know how to set up your swager properly.

My experience has shown that I have to sort brass into batches by make and date if I want to use my Dillon 600. It needs to be adjusted for each batch. But, Swaging dies are pretty fool proof once they are set up properly. I've ruined more brass by over swaging just setting up my swager than I have ever ruined using a $5 crimp remover cutting tool chucked in my drillpress. Also, with the cutter, I don't have to sort my plinking brass.