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  • #16
    Nickbowen5
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 570

    bump
    WTS AR-15 Parts: BCG, CH, Buffer tube kit, M4 Stock, Blackhawk! Stock
    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=785154

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    • #17
      GeoffLinder
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 2425

      Originally posted by Nickbowen5
      This might not be feasible for me as I will soon be a broke college student. Right now I am working just enough to pay for my car insurance and gas for my car (Thankfully I have loving parents that pay for most of my other expenses). It would take me over 2 months to save up for purchasing everything while paying my car expenses.
      In CA it could be a buy now or wish you had later thing at some point in the future :-(

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      • #18
        Nickbowen5
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 570

        Exactly which is what I am trying to avoid.
        WTS AR-15 Parts: BCG, CH, Buffer tube kit, M4 Stock, Blackhawk! Stock
        http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=785154

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        • #19
          MrElectric03
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 1590

          Keep the press, especially for rifle I'm sure you'll need it at sometime.
          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          So you are throwing out 95% of reality to select the 5% of reality where you are actually right?
          We must be on calguns...

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          • #20
            GeoffLinder
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 2425

            Originally posted by Nickbowen5
            Exactly which is what I am trying to avoid.
            Laws may/will be changing on buying/building AR's. No one knows when, but it's just a matter of time in CA.

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            • #21
              gigawatt
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 24

              Would you trade for a 7075 billet 80% AR-15

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              • #22
                Nickbowen5
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 570

                Originally posted by gigawatt
                Would you trade for a 7075 billet 80% AR-15
                Honestly I am new to the whole gun thing so would you mind explaining to me what exactly that is? All I know right now is that I want an AR lower, but since I cannot buy a lower I would need an 80% so that part I kinda get. but what is 7075 billet?
                WTS AR-15 Parts: BCG, CH, Buffer tube kit, M4 Stock, Blackhawk! Stock
                http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=785154

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                • #23
                  milw50717
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 740

                  All 80% lowers are not created equal.

                  7075 = Type of Aluminium used to make the lower. This is the milspec material, with 6061 being the other commonly used material. Do a google on '7075 vs 6061 for AR lowers' for additional info.

                  Billet in this case means means cut from bar stock. Do a google on 'forged vs billet for AR lowers' for additional info.

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                  • #24
                    GeoffLinder
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2425

                    Lowers (and uppers) come as cast or billet, billet block can also be forged. Billet is a block of aluminum that is CNC machined to shape, forged is "stamped" to shape.. Cast is cast from molten into the correct shape. I favor machined billet, some say forged, either is fine really. Forged may be stronger, but that is a moot point in my experience. Cast are not typical anymore.
                    Last edited by GeoffLinder; 05-10-2013, 8:29 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Nickbowen5
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 570

                      Thank you for this information
                      WTS AR-15 Parts: BCG, CH, Buffer tube kit, M4 Stock, Blackhawk! Stock
                      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=785154

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                      • #26
                        asm_
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 743

                        I have never heard of cast lower. But you do find one, avoid them. Cast aluminium typically have voids in them and it unsuitable for AR15 Lower.

                        A properly tempered forged 7075 is almost twice as strong as 6061. 6061 is easier to machine and it's easier on the cutting tool. 6061 deal is the new trend started by small operation mfg that are just recently jumped into the band wagon of AR15 craze. Probably due to the shortage of mil-spec 7075 forged lower. However, like someone has already point out, if you are not going to war either 7075 or 6061 will work. But, if this is your STHF gun, you should get 7075 forged.

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                        • #27
                          Nickbowen5
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 570

                          Originally posted by asm_
                          I have never heard of cast lower. But you do find one, avoid them. Cast aluminium typically have voids in them and it unsuitable for AR15 Lower.

                          A properly tempered forged 7075 is almost twice as strong as 6061. 6061 is easier to machine and it's easier on the cutting tool. 6061 deal is the new trend started by small operation mfg that are just recently jumped into the band wagon of AR15 craze. Probably due to the shortage of mil-spec 7075 forged lower. However, like someone has already point out, if you are not going to war either 7075 or 6061 will work. But, if this is your STHF gun, you should get 7075 forged.

                          B
                          What would be pros on cons for billet and forged?
                          WTS AR-15 Parts: BCG, CH, Buffer tube kit, M4 Stock, Blackhawk! Stock
                          http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=785154

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                          • #28
                            milw50717
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 740

                            Is Google broken ?

                            Try the search function on this site.

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                            • #29
                              GeoffLinder
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2425

                              Originally posted by asm_
                              I have never heard of cast lower. But you do find one, avoid them. Cast aluminium typically have voids in them and it unsuitable for AR15 Lower.
                              B
                              A lot of AR's were made from cast in the 60's through the early 80's still a few being done that way, just not very often found. Serviceable, just not the strongest.

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                              • #30
                                Nickbowen5
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 570

                                Originally posted by milw50717
                                Is Google broken ?

                                Try the search function on this site.
                                No it's not but because I am new to the whole gun world and don't understad half the things they are saying on the internet I was hoping to rely on the experience of those that know about it. No need to be rude.
                                WTS AR-15 Parts: BCG, CH, Buffer tube kit, M4 Stock, Blackhawk! Stock
                                http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=785154

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